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	<title>Comments on: British Association for Nutritional Therapy &#8211; when an organisation looks like a regulator, quacks like a regulator, but isn&#8217;t a regulator</title>
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	<description>The truth about Patrick Holford, media nutritionist</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Cleary</title>
		<link>http://holfordwatch.info/2007/05/09/british-association-for-nutritional-therapy-when-an-organisation-looks-like-a-regulator-quacks-like-a-regulator-but-isnt-a-regulator/comment-page-2/#comment-28464</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Cleary]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 10:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Subject:   salvestrol

I cannot find any scientific papers about CYP1B1 and salvestrol and the metabolites toxic to cancer cells as outlined in British Journal of Cancer Issue 86, year 2002 pps 774-8.

I would appreciate some help.

Kind regards to all concerned in controlling cancer development]]></description>
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<p>I cannot find any scientific papers about CYP1B1 and salvestrol and the metabolites toxic to cancer cells as outlined in British Journal of Cancer Issue 86, year 2002 pps 774-8.</p>
<p>I would appreciate some help.</p>
<p>Kind regards to all concerned in controlling cancer development</p>
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		<title>By: A Tale of Two WorkForces in the Same Workplace: Different Rules for Dietitians and Nutritionists in the NHS? &#171; Holford Watch: Patrick Holford, nutritionism and bad science</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A Tale of Two WorkForces in the Same Workplace: Different Rules for Dietitians and Nutritionists in the NHS? &#171; Holford Watch: Patrick Holford, nutritionism and bad science]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 12:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] BANT does not have a readily accessible code of ethics nor a transparent complaints procedure. BANT is also sanguine about its members taking undeclared commission/discounts from the sales of supplements and various tests. Even if a nutritional therapist were reported to BANT for making claims for dietary advice or supplements that appear to be unevidenced then it is difficult to anticipate what the outcome might be. It isn&#8217;t implausible that many of those hearing any such case might share the practice of making unevidenced recommendations for diet, supplements and tests or might have qualified from courses that advocate their use. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] BANT does not have a readily accessible code of ethics nor a transparent complaints procedure. BANT is also sanguine about its members taking undeclared commission/discounts from the sales of supplements and various tests. Even if a nutritional therapist were reported to BANT for making claims for dietary advice or supplements that appear to be unevidenced then it is difficult to anticipate what the outcome might be. It isn&#8217;t implausible that many of those hearing any such case might share the practice of making unevidenced recommendations for diet, supplements and tests or might have qualified from courses that advocate their use. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: jonhw</title>
		<link>http://holfordwatch.info/2007/05/09/british-association-for-nutritional-therapy-when-an-organisation-looks-like-a-regulator-quacks-like-a-regulator-but-isnt-a-regulator/comment-page-2/#comment-19947</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jonhw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 16:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lili - are you saying there are plans to introduce statutory regulation?  There is currently no UK law to stop anyone (even if completely unqualified and incompetent) from calling themselves a &#039;nutritionist&#039; or a &#039;nutritional therapist&#039;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lili &#8211; are you saying there are plans to introduce statutory regulation?  There is currently no UK law to stop anyone (even if completely unqualified and incompetent) from calling themselves a &#8216;nutritionist&#8217; or a &#8216;nutritional therapist&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Lili</title>
		<link>http://holfordwatch.info/2007/05/09/british-association-for-nutritional-therapy-when-an-organisation-looks-like-a-regulator-quacks-like-a-regulator-but-isnt-a-regulator/comment-page-2/#comment-19939</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lili]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 11:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think you will find that the Nutritional Therapy Council act as the regulator for the profession, - and in fact from september 2009 all nutritional therapists will have to be registered with the council in order to be able to work. Only those graduating from approved courses of with the required experience will be able to register, thus more closely regulating the profession.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you will find that the Nutritional Therapy Council act as the regulator for the profession, &#8211; and in fact from september 2009 all nutritional therapists will have to be registered with the council in order to be able to work. Only those graduating from approved courses of with the required experience will be able to register, thus more closely regulating the profession.</p>
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		<title>By: Chair of the BANT ethics commitee breaks own code of ethics (and commits a criminal offence) &#171; gimpy&#8217;s blog</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chair of the BANT ethics commitee breaks own code of ethics (and commits a criminal offence) &#171; gimpy&#8217;s blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Therapists (BANT) as the nutritional therapists body that claims to regulate nutritionists yet is remarkably secretive about its code of ethics and disciplinary procedures, perhaps because it altered them after [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Cynical OT</title>
		<link>http://holfordwatch.info/2007/05/09/british-association-for-nutritional-therapy-when-an-organisation-looks-like-a-regulator-quacks-like-a-regulator-but-isnt-a-regulator/comment-page-1/#comment-9665</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cynical OT]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 20:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As an Occupational Therapist, I have the copy of our code of ethics in front of me. It is 18 pages in total - significantly longer than NTC&#039;s. It&#039;s published by the College of Occupational Therapists and is easily available from them. www.cot.org.uk if interested.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an Occupational Therapist, I have the copy of our code of ethics in front of me. It is 18 pages in total &#8211; significantly longer than NTC&#8217;s. It&#8217;s published by the College of Occupational Therapists and is easily available from them. <a href="http://www.cot.org.uk" rel="nofollow">http://www.cot.org.uk</a> if interested.</p>
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		<title>By: dvnutrix</title>
		<link>http://holfordwatch.info/2007/05/09/british-association-for-nutritional-therapy-when-an-organisation-looks-like-a-regulator-quacks-like-a-regulator-but-isnt-a-regulator/comment-page-1/#comment-9231</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dvnutrix]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 14:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If the NTC and CNCH can&#039;t tell you then that is deplorable but it would seem as if no one can make any guarantees because these people won&#039;t finish their work and issue their list.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the NTC and CNCH can&#8217;t tell you then that is deplorable but it would seem as if no one can make any guarantees because these people won&#8217;t finish their work and issue their list.</p>
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		<title>By: cheryl</title>
		<link>http://holfordwatch.info/2007/05/09/british-association-for-nutritional-therapy-when-an-organisation-looks-like-a-regulator-quacks-like-a-regulator-but-isnt-a-regulator/comment-page-1/#comment-9227</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cheryl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 08:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[but I am still no wiser...can anyone recommed a good distance learning course in Nutrition..at least a diploma and not too costly and that WILL be recognised by the NTC and then the CNCH! Thanks]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but I am still no wiser&#8230;can anyone recommed a good distance learning course in Nutrition..at least a diploma and not too costly and that WILL be recognised by the NTC and then the CNCH! Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: cheryl</title>
		<link>http://holfordwatch.info/2007/05/09/british-association-for-nutritional-therapy-when-an-organisation-looks-like-a-regulator-quacks-like-a-regulator-but-isnt-a-regulator/comment-page-1/#comment-9226</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cheryl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 08:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi, thanks for that..very entertaining and very apt to my last 6 months...you see..I am hitting 40 and have 5 kids and live in what seems a fairly remote place educationally...I would love to be a Nutritional Therapist..or any other title to do with Nutrititionism...however after spending 6 months waiting for NTC to accredit some distance learning courses and not wanting to be a quack I started banging my head off the wall....the NTC cant reccommend a course to me at this moment but I would like it to be above board! When  I have done a course...costing anywhere between £4000 and £15000..they would then be able to tell me it wasnt suitable!! lol I then tried to get hold of the CNCH the new register for all and after a few  unanswered emails I picked up the phone and called them instead....eventually some lovely guy called me and could see my problem! I explained lots of therapists are very open to the voluntary register and welcome it...but the interim period is too long! I will have wasted a a year initially a lot of money and possible a massive ammount of time ...and still not become registered! lol]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, thanks for that..very entertaining and very apt to my last 6 months&#8230;you see..I am hitting 40 and have 5 kids and live in what seems a fairly remote place educationally&#8230;I would love to be a Nutritional Therapist..or any other title to do with Nutrititionism&#8230;however after spending 6 months waiting for NTC to accredit some distance learning courses and not wanting to be a quack I started banging my head off the wall&#8230;.the NTC cant reccommend a course to me at this moment but I would like it to be above board! When  I have done a course&#8230;costing anywhere between £4000 and £15000..they would then be able to tell me it wasnt suitable!! lol I then tried to get hold of the CNCH the new register for all and after a few  unanswered emails I picked up the phone and called them instead&#8230;.eventually some lovely guy called me and could see my problem! I explained lots of therapists are very open to the voluntary register and welcome it&#8230;but the interim period is too long! I will have wasted a a year initially a lot of money and possible a massive ammount of time &#8230;and still not become registered! lol</p>
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		<title>By: BANT ethics code: BANT nutritional therapists are allowed to earn commission from selling pills and tests &#171; Holford Watch: Patrick Holford, nutritionism and bad science</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BANT ethics code: BANT nutritional therapists are allowed to earn commission from selling pills and tests &#171; Holford Watch: Patrick Holford, nutritionism and bad science]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 20:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] 7, 2008 &#183; No Comments  A while back, I asked BANT - which promotes itself as &#8220;The Professional Body for Nutritional Therapists&#8221;, and [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 7, 2008 &middot; No Comments  A while back, I asked BANT &#8211; which promotes itself as &#8220;The Professional Body for Nutritional Therapists&#8221;, and [...]</p>
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