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	<title>Comments on: Holford Jumps on the Wi-Fi Broadband Wagon &#8211; and gets it badly wrong.</title>
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		<title>By: Patrick Holford and Q-Link: Boyd&#8217;s Galvanic Batteries with a C21 Update? &#171; Holford Watch: Patrick Holford, nutritionism and bad science</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Patrick Holford and Q-Link: Boyd&#8217;s Galvanic Batteries with a C21 Update? &#171; Holford Watch: Patrick Holford, nutritionism and bad science]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 04:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Macklis&#8217; note of caution in no way tempers the Holford endorsement of QLink and it just emphasises Holford&#8217;s poor track record in this area when one recalls Holford&#8217;s ill-considered foray into further EMF and Wi-Fi scare-mongering. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Macklis&#8217; note of caution in no way tempers the Holford endorsement of QLink and it just emphasises Holford&#8217;s poor track record in this area when one recalls Holford&#8217;s ill-considered foray into further EMF and Wi-Fi scare-mongering. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Holford Refers to Someone Else as Inaccurate &#171; Holford Watch: Patrick Holford, nutritionism and bad science</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Patrick Holford Refers to Someone Else as Inaccurate &#171; Holford Watch: Patrick Holford, nutritionism and bad science]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 15:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] way&#8221; of others. Marvellous. Perhaps he is relying upon dowsing and it is being mislead by the dLan that he has fitted to his home to prevent EMR exposure from wireless broadband (except, you&#8217;ve got it, it probably [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] way&#8221; of others. Marvellous. Perhaps he is relying upon dowsing and it is being mislead by the dLan that he has fitted to his home to prevent EMR exposure from wireless broadband (except, you&#8217;ve got it, it probably [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2007 00:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Has anyone ever consider the reason these people report on the health problems of anything related to obtaining information is to prevent people from finding out just how rediculous their knowledge of the subject is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone ever consider the reason these people report on the health problems of anything related to obtaining information is to prevent people from finding out just how rediculous their knowledge of the subject is.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://holfordwatch.info/2007/05/24/holford-jumps-on-the-wi-fi-broadband-wagon-and-gets-it-badly-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-236</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Simon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 14:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[According to the &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/6705313.stm/&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;bbc&lt;/a&gt; we dont have enough plug sockets anyway. What&#039;s this going to do blocking up one in every room? More overloaded 4-way sockets leads to more fires leads to more deaths than EMR has ever caused.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to the <a HREF="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/6705313.stm/" REL="nofollow">bbc</a> we dont have enough plug sockets anyway. What&#8217;s this going to do blocking up one in every room? More overloaded 4-way sockets leads to more fires leads to more deaths than EMR has ever caused.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 19:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Many years ago I worked for what was then the Post Office Engineering dept which, in those days, dealt wit radio interference as well as repairing telephones. It never ceased to amaze me how many poeple thought that they were being tortured/monitored/tapped or tormented in some way by electricity. &lt;br/&gt;It seems nothing has changed]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many years ago I worked for what was then the Post Office Engineering dept which, in those days, dealt wit radio interference as well as repairing telephones. It never ceased to amaze me how many poeple thought that they were being tortured/monitored/tapped or tormented in some way by electricity. <br />It seems nothing has changed</p>
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		<title>By: James Barlow</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Barlow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 14:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I used to sell and install wireless equipment (note - if  there is a EMR conspiracy then I didn&#039;t get the memo).&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I had tremendous problems at one house where I couldn&#039;t get a wi-fi signal from the main body of the building into a new extension. After discussion with the home owner I discovered that the insulation of the adjoining walls was held in place by a compartment made of foil-backed plywood. It was very effective at blocking 802.11g signals.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If you are looking to reduce your exposure to EMR, then I&#039;d suggest constructing a wearable foil-backed wooden compartment to shield your core internal organs - a few example designs are available on the web:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;http://tinyurl.com/2yzvzc]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to sell and install wireless equipment (note &#8211; if  there is a EMR conspiracy then I didn&#8217;t get the memo).</p>
<p>I had tremendous problems at one house where I couldn&#8217;t get a wi-fi signal from the main body of the building into a new extension. After discussion with the home owner I discovered that the insulation of the adjoining walls was held in place by a compartment made of foil-backed plywood. It was very effective at blocking 802.11g signals.</p>
<p>If you are looking to reduce your exposure to EMR, then I&#8217;d suggest constructing a wearable foil-backed wooden compartment to shield your core internal organs &#8211; a few example designs are available on the web:</p>
<p>http://tinyurl.com/2yzvzc</p>
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		<title>By: Persiflage</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Persiflage]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 10:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of the things that makes me giggle the most about this sort of thing is the volume of unfounded accusations of a conspiracy between mobile telcos and Wi-Fi manufacturers...&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I can tell you this for an absolute fact: until very recently, the mobile telcos have HATED Wi-Fi as a technology.  The thought of some long-running cloak-and-dagger collaboration is as laughable as the idea that $cientologists are in league with the Institute of Psychiatry.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Telcos such as Orange have launched legal challenges in many cities against the provision of free Wi-Fi on the grounds that such networks are &quot;anti-competitive&quot;.  Ubiquitous free wireless access is nothing short of terrifying to telcos because it potentially short-circuits their entire business model.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It&#039;s only in the last couple of years that they&#039;ve bowed to the inevitable and started to incorporate Wi-Fi into their handsets and &quot;multiplay&quot; offerings in a belated attempt to claw back some revenue from the technology.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Most networks still attempt to hobble the use of Wi-Fi on handsets to prevent the use of free VoIP applications...  The concept of the WiFi &quot;industry&quot; itself is a pretty nebulous one, but the idea that they&#039;re in cahoots with mobile phone providers in some sort of dark conspiracy makes me splutter coffee all over my keyboard whenever I read it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the things that makes me giggle the most about this sort of thing is the volume of unfounded accusations of a conspiracy between mobile telcos and Wi-Fi manufacturers&#8230;</p>
<p>I can tell you this for an absolute fact: until very recently, the mobile telcos have HATED Wi-Fi as a technology.  The thought of some long-running cloak-and-dagger collaboration is as laughable as the idea that $cientologists are in league with the Institute of Psychiatry.</p>
<p>Telcos such as Orange have launched legal challenges in many cities against the provision of free Wi-Fi on the grounds that such networks are &#8220;anti-competitive&#8221;.  Ubiquitous free wireless access is nothing short of terrifying to telcos because it potentially short-circuits their entire business model.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s only in the last couple of years that they&#8217;ve bowed to the inevitable and started to incorporate Wi-Fi into their handsets and &#8220;multiplay&#8221; offerings in a belated attempt to claw back some revenue from the technology.</p>
<p>Most networks still attempt to hobble the use of Wi-Fi on handsets to prevent the use of free VoIP applications&#8230;  The concept of the WiFi &#8220;industry&#8221; itself is a pretty nebulous one, but the idea that they&#8217;re in cahoots with mobile phone providers in some sort of dark conspiracy makes me splutter coffee all over my keyboard whenever I read it.</p>
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		<title>By: ach</title>
		<link>http://holfordwatch.info/2007/05/24/holford-jumps-on-the-wi-fi-broadband-wagon-and-gets-it-badly-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-163</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ach]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2007 13:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;an open mind&quot;?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Important, yes, but when you ignore the multiple provocation studies and cherry pick from poor methodolgy and anecdote, it rather leads one to agree with Richard Dawkins that &quot;there is such a thing as being so open minded that your brains fall out&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;an open mind&#8221;?</p>
<p>Important, yes, but when you ignore the multiple provocation studies and cherry pick from poor methodolgy and anecdote, it rather leads one to agree with Richard Dawkins that &#8220;there is such a thing as being so open minded that your brains fall out&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2007 12:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[anonymous- thanks for the link.  However, I don&#039;t think that an &#039;even-handed&#039; approach means accepting nonsense as a worthwhile argument.  A lot of the scare stories about wi-fi not only lack any evidence of negative effects, but also (as discussed in this blog post) appear to misunderstand what EMR is.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;There are also &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2007/05/stapling-stomachs-of-anorexics.html&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ethical issues here&lt;/a&gt;.  As &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.badscience.net/?p=425&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Goldacre argues&lt;/a&gt; &quot;Symptoms [of electrosensitivity] are real, they are subjective, some people experience them very severely, and this is real distress that deserves our compassion. Alternatively, you could cynically exploit them - and mislead them, and frighten them - to sell your quack products, your newspaper, your TV show, and your freelance articles.&quot;  Faced with this choice, the last thing we want is to be &#039;even-handed&#039;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anonymous- thanks for the link.  However, I don&#8217;t think that an &#8216;even-handed&#8217; approach means accepting nonsense as a worthwhile argument.  A lot of the scare stories about wi-fi not only lack any evidence of negative effects, but also (as discussed in this blog post) appear to misunderstand what EMR is.</p>
<p>There are also <a HREF="http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2007/05/stapling-stomachs-of-anorexics.html" REL="nofollow">ethical issues here</a>.  As <a HREF="http://www.badscience.net/?p=425" REL="nofollow">Goldacre argues</a> &#8220;Symptoms [of electrosensitivity] are real, they are subjective, some people experience them very severely, and this is real distress that deserves our compassion. Alternatively, you could cynically exploit them &#8211; and mislead them, and frighten them &#8211; to sell your quack products, your newspaper, your TV show, and your freelance articles.&#8221;  Faced with this choice, the last thing we want is to be &#8216;even-handed&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 18:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s a new blog on wi-fi and health risks, with some attempt at an even-handed approach:  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;wifirisks.com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a new blog on wi-fi and health risks, with some attempt at an even-handed approach:  </p>
<p>wifirisks.com</p>
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