Professor Patrick Holford of Teesside University (and also Head of Science and Education at Biocare) and Drew Fobbester are joint researchers and authors of the Food for the Brain Child Survey, September 2007 (pdf). Holford Watch was disappointed by the report’s literature overview. We approached Patrick Holford and two members of the Scientific Advisors who had approved the data analysis with our questions about the FFTB report data but we did not receive any answers. Our comments about the data analysis and presentation of the data reflect our confusion.
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Holford and Fobbester are so pleased with the graph that displays SAT Score Variance with Overall Diet that they use it twice: Section 4.2.1 (pg. 9) and 10.1 (pg. 33). The careful reader will note that in both places, the authors claim:
There was a direct and consistent increase in SAT scores with improving overall diet, showing that children with ‘very good’ diets have mean SAT scores that are 11% (p [less than] 0.05) than children [sic] with ‘poor’ diets. [pg. 9]
It seems self-evident to note that there is not an 11% difference between the mean SAT scores of the children with Very Good (mean 3.26) and Poor (mean 3.02) diets, this is approx. an 8% difference. There is an approx. 11% difference between the scores of the children with Very Poor (mean 2.93) and Very Good diets. The differences between the diet groups are put into some perspective when the reader considers that Holford and Fobbester report that the government target for SAT scores is 4+; meeting this target would require improvements of between 22-34% for the children in these categories.
Furthermore, if you look at the graph, it is immediately apparent, even from the thumbnail, that there is no “direct and consistent increase in SAT scores with improving overall diet”.[1] Children with a Poor diet have an mean SAT score of 3.02 which is higher than both the Neutral (mean 2.94) and Good (mean 3.01) groups. The means of children with a Very Poor and Neutral diet may be effectively equivalent at 2.93 and 2.94 respectively. Here we come to an interesting issue because we don’t know if the number of children in these groups are roughly comparable or widely disparate. If the numbers are very different, then they are not robustly comparable. If both groups the Very Poor andVery Good groups have such small numbers that they are effectively outliers, this would call into question why this should be given as a useful comparison.
One might find it helpful if the reader were to understand how many children fall into each category of diet. Holford Watch would have found it very helpful. Sadly, this information is not provided. From the choice of bar graph and the 5 columns of equal width, it might seem as if the numbers in each category might be the same - 5 categories with 20% of the children in each. Holford and Fobbester don’t comment on this on pg. 9, but they add this explanation when they reproduce the graph later.
Based on the apparent positive and negative relationships between foods and academic performance rating, behaviour and actual SAT scores the researchers applied an overall diet score to each individual based on their consumption of each positive or negative food…
Having given an overall diet score to each individual they were grouped into ‘Poor’, Neutral, ‘Good’, and ‘Very Good’. ‘Poor’ diets are high in negative foods and low in positive foods and ‘Very Good’ diets are high in positive and low in negative foods. The worse the overall diet score the worse the SAT scores. [pg. 33]
It is unfortunate that Holford and Fobbester do not explain whether or not this survey is based on a validated food frequency questionnaire for children or one that was especially generated. Nor do they explain why they chose to eschew the more usual tool of principal-components analysis to generate familiar dietary patterns from the food groups: e.g., ‘Western’ or ‘prudent’ with degrees in-between.[2] Although the authors describe 4 categories, they use 5 in the graph and elsewhere; the ‘missing’ category here is Very Poor.
Beyond that, the authors do not give the reader an example of the scoring system or the weights applied to different foods, food groups, or methods of food preparation. The reader has no idea if the children with the very good diet are a subset who, e.g.: eat nuts or seeds every day (1%); eat dark green leafy vegetables every day; eat 5+ portions of fruit a day (15%); eat oily fish 3 or more times a week (6%); and never/rarely eat sugary snacks, fried food, takeaways etc. for which there are negative correlations in the data. The food frequency %s are given in the brackets and drawn from the food frequency table in section 8 (pg. 21).
This is rather important because although the authors frequently emphasise the 10,222 participants in the survey, they have SAT scores for only 3139 (pg. 6). Depending on how restrictive the criteria are for the Very Good diet, this category may be reporting the results for anywhere between 6[3] and 628 children. If the number is towards the lower end of the spectrum, it is not infeasible that those children are from the same family group[4] or a small number of families that would account for the dietary recommendations.
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It is possible that recommendations for an ideal diet for children in the UK is based on data from a small number of children and the dietary habits of a very small number of families. If this is an accurate depiction of the data that underpin these recommendations, then this is somewhat at odds with the claims for robustness in section 3.5.
The data generated by the 10,222 respondents gave a good range of regional representation, covered male and females and provided a good sample across four age ranges. While there were some variations in overall scores…they were not marked and this report therefore focuses on the total sample. This gives strong statistical significance to the findings from a robust sample size. [pg. 8; emphasis added.]
Holford Watch disagrees for many, many reasons. Holford and Fobbester have acknowledged in some places that the survey was a self-selected sample and the data are not weighted, so the results can not have “strong statistical significance” despite their optimism otherwise. E.g.:
This very large self-selected sample delivers powerful statistical correlations between diet, lifestyle, behaviour and academic performance. This sample, while providing a broad cross-section of the public, were not randomly selected nor has the data been weighted to attempt to make the sample representative of any population. The average SAT scores of the sample were considerably below the national average. It is therefore likely that the respondents were more likely to have children with poor behaviour and academic performance. [pg. 7; emphasis added.]
There is no indication that this survey is sufficiently powered to detect the effect of food groups, food items or food preparation methods on health, behaviour, academic performance or other metrics. We even have problems interpreting some of the more straightforward data. The relative numbers of children in each category might be very important if there has been some weighting calculation to adjust the SAT scores in 4.2.1. It is readily apparent that the reported means of 2.93, 3.02, 2.94, 3.01 and 3.26 yield an average SAT score of 3.03 rather than the 2.97 that the authors report. Unfortunately, the reader has no information about the weighting. The data are not presented with error bars on the graphs, nor with confidence intervals for their p significance values.
When graphical illustrations of data are used well, they make the data easier to understand. They can present large amounts of data concisely in an easy-to-interpret graphical summary. An appropriate representation can highlight and clarify relationships that might otherwise be difficult to detect. If there are reliable values and confidence intervals then this can support extrapolation for various claims. However, this is not an example of a graph that was well designed. This graph does not condense the data in a meaningful way yet large claims are made for the relationships that it is claimed to eludicate. In its present form, this graph represents a very partial and unbalanced summary of the data because it does not indicate the number of children in each group, nor does it provide error bars. As such, this graph lends itself to misinterpretation, over-interpretation and erroneous conclusions.
We shall explore the other tables, charts and graphs in this report but we are not optimistic that they are of greater relevance or quality. Not to add to the general pessimism, but in concentrating on the literature and data analysis, we have not even touched on the methodological problems of this report. The general reader must wonder what the Scientific Advisers were thinking when they approved this report.
Notes
[1] You might also note that although the graph represents the SAT score of the Very Good diet children as if it is 4x larger than the score of the children with the Very Poor diet, there is a difference of only 0.32 points. The authors chose a very peculiar scale to express the group differences.
[2] We shall expand this more fully in a later post.
[3] We chose 6 rather arbitrarily but the table of food frequencies shows that 1% of children eat a serving or more of nuts and seeds per day. 1% of 3139 is 31 children. Maybe all of these children eat dark green leafy vegetables every day or maybe only half of them do, say 15 children. After other restrictions are applied, the number of children with a Very Good diet might be a very small number.
[4] Ceec has pointed out in the comments that the usual way to deal with data from the same family would be to correct for clustering. If the authors did this, they don’t mention it. However, given the uncertainty about the numbers in the groups, I think that it is unlikely.
Further Reading
Food for the Brain Child Survey 2007: The Promotion
Holford Watch looks at the literature review:
Food for the Brain Child Survey 2007: Review Part 1
Food for the Brain Child Survey 2007: Review Part 2
Food for the Brain Child Survey 2007: Review Part 3
Food for the Brain Child Survey 2007: Review Part 4
Food for the Brain Child Survey 2007: Review Part 5
Holford Watch appeals for help to Professor Holford and two members of the Scientific Advisory Board who approved this report and then looks at the data and analyses:
Food for the Brain Child Survey 2007: Review Part 7
Food for the Brain Child Survey 2007: Review Part 8
Why Don’t Food for the Brain Report Their Survey Results on Supplement Pills Survey: Review Part 9
Food for the Brain Child Survey 2007: Review Part 10
14 responses so far ↓
tifosi246 // February 5, 2008 at 10:17 am
Hmm, so first the references claimed to provide the scientific grounding for the study are shown to be largely irrelevant (or even not exist). Then the claims of
can be disproved by glancing at a low-res thumbnail of the supporting graph!
It really begs the question: “what did the Scientific Advisory Board actually do to validate this report before endorsing it?” It seems doubtful they even read it (given the number of missing words, they certaintly didn’t proof-read it), let alone checked the robustness of the data or the clarity of its presentation.
Sorry HolfordWatch I don’t have your “mercilessly thorough” approach, but I think one of the SAB urges in the foreword that this report should be read by child mental health and education policymakers. Oh for a little superscipted scienciness style reference to a footnote at that point saying “Not that we read it ourselves, but are we bothered? Do we look bothered? What’evs, take our word for it, it’s cool”.
I can only hope those policymakers read this series of posts first.
Ceec // February 5, 2008 at 11:24 am
Good work!
One point that occurred to me when I read your analysis was that if they have included children from the same family, they should probably also correct for clustering, as these children would clearly not be independent of one another. This would widen any confidence intervals, possibly rendering the estimates less “significant”. Having said that, it sounds like the entire sample is flawed, so correcting for clustering would be window dressing at best.
Actually, maybe they didn’t control for any confounding variables at all. I’m afraid I don’t have the patience to find out. If so, that really would be rubbish.
Claire // February 5, 2008 at 12:08 pm
In my wildly unscientific way, I can’t help wondering if ‘Very Good Diet’ correlates with ‘Very Middle Class, aspiring parents’ and all that that entails - the extracurricular music lessons, sports and artistic activities, access to books, puzzles, games … all of which arguably encouragegood socialisation and academic performance. Having being so irresponsible as to let my child consume dairy and bread - every day! - I’m wondering how she managed to pass her Key Stage 2 SATs with level 5 in all tests.
dvnutrix // February 5, 2008 at 1:07 pm
Ceec and Claire, I have known some very large families who had steps-and-stairs children as they were known (one or twins every 15 months or so) - if this questionnaire allowed you to answer for several children in your family (and there was nothing to stop you except boredom) then it is entirely possible that some of the smaller groups were dominated by a small number of families.
It is not that unusual for children with high academic attainment to be from the same family, possibly for some of the reasons outlined by Claire. That said, in here, I’m still surprised at the SAT scores.
If dairy and bread every day and no adverse affects, one has to assume that you detox your daughter once a week and feed her appropriate supplements. Either that or your daughter is part of an outlier/huge group of children who are not adversely affected by this stuff. [/eyeroll]
dvnutrix // February 5, 2008 at 1:11 pm
Tifosi, I’m coming to the conclusion that a number of the Scientific Advisers must have been napping when they were asked to provide guidance about this study.
Either that or, as you say, they were overcome by an attack of the what’ev’s.
Claire // February 5, 2008 at 2:39 pm
It’s not clear to me how they have calculated the SAT averages. Target level four applies to the Key Stage 2 sats. There are three SATS, key stage one (7 yrs, govt target level 2); key stage 2 (year 6, 10-11 yrs, govt. target level 4); and key stage 3, (yr 9, 14 yrs, target level 5). Are these averages from across all three SATs or just the KS2 tests? If all levels, how many children took each test - were there big differences between group sizes?
dvnutrix // February 5, 2008 at 3:22 pm
It isn’t clear to us about the SAT scores but there is so much amiss with this report that we had to pick somewhere to start. The majority of the reports are for Key Stages 2 and 3. They do give their analysis of SAT scores and what they did with them in Section 5.4 (pg. 15) - if you can offer any insights, please do.
Claire // February 5, 2008 at 5:51 pm
Thanks for the reference . It looks like a very low proportion of the key stage one (~7 yrs) parents/children gave SATs information, so not sure including that group in any extrapolation is a good idea, particularly as the average SAT score they quote is above the KS1 target (2)! I should have thought it would be more meaningful to give average scores for each KS level, given their different govt. targets. But since the average score given is surprisingly low, apart from KS1, one has to come back to selection bias, which, as pointed out, undermines claims to robustness and applicability to the general population.
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Louise // April 3, 2008 at 10:49 am
It seems as though a small proportion of scientists feel it is ok to ignore any questions or criticisms. I believe that the only way to stop the deluge of bad science going around today is to have an official body set up to deal with complaints, which scientists would be forced to respond to or face disciplinary action. Surely this is not beyond the capabilities of the government to set this up? In the same way that people giving financial advice have to be regulated, so do those giving scientific and health advice since certain unscrupulous individuals are benefiting financially from such un-sound advice and they need to be accountable.
dvnutrix // April 3, 2008 at 4:26 pm
It is an interesting thought, Louise.
Interestingly, we have received an email from Stephanie Fox (in partial response to this) to say that she and Patrick Holford refuse to engage with us for a number of wholly unsatisfactory reasons. Reasons that, to them, supplant any need to fact-check or provide a reasonable service to their paying public.
Dr Aust // April 3, 2008 at 8:53 pm
Louise
Patrick Holford himself is NOT a scientist. Or even close. He has no training in any kind of science beyond a B.Sc. in Psychology in the late 70s. No Master’s degree (he started one at Surrey but was booted out for - guess what - shoddy science). No Ph.D. His patina of “science-ey-ness” is about as deep as a page of one of his books.
Re. the real scientists who are FFtB’s “advisory board, I suspect they are people who think that (in general) there should be more research into nutrition / diet and health, and have made what I call a “Faustian bargain” of supporting (from a distance) PH’s attempts to bring publicity to the issue. However….the dangers of associating themselves with PH are now clear to see.
Re “penalties”, tt is fair to say that these gentlemen’s reputations in science will NOT have been enhanced by this. Quite the opposite.
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