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		<title>By: Patrick Holford on Andrew Wakefield: He Needs to Issue an Update &#171; Holford Watch: Patrick Holford, nutritionism and bad science</title>
		<link>http://holfordwatch.info/2008/07/16/patrick-holford-claims-there-is-no-need-to-vaccinate-for-whooping-cough/comment-page-1/#comment-15012</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Patrick Holford on Andrew Wakefield: He Needs to Issue an Update &#171; Holford Watch: Patrick Holford, nutritionism and bad science]]></dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] to argue for a protracted vaccination schedule of selected, single jabs, omitting some, such as whooping cough, altogether. Holford is prepared to lend lip-service to the need for measles vaccination although [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to argue for a protracted vaccination schedule of selected, single jabs, omitting some, such as whooping cough, altogether. Holford is prepared to lend lip-service to the need for measles vaccination although [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Holford, Dr Richard Halvorsen and The Vaccination Schedule As a Risk for Asthma &#171; Holford Watch: Patrick Holford, nutritionism and bad science</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Patrick Holford, Dr Richard Halvorsen and The Vaccination Schedule As a Risk for Asthma &#171; Holford Watch: Patrick Holford, nutritionism and bad science]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 02:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] of his anti-vaccination advice: see e.g., his misinformation and partial interpretations for the whooping cough vaccines and his alarmist account of aluminium in vaccines. Such errors are not infrequent in [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of his anti-vaccination advice: see e.g., his misinformation and partial interpretations for the whooping cough vaccines and his alarmist account of aluminium in vaccines. Such errors are not infrequent in [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Holford and Aluminium in Vaccines &#171; Holford Watch: Patrick Holford, nutritionism and bad science</title>
		<link>http://holfordwatch.info/2008/07/16/patrick-holford-claims-there-is-no-need-to-vaccinate-for-whooping-cough/comment-page-1/#comment-10621</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] an FAQ for common mis-conceptions about vaccines. A Paediatrician&#8217;s Series on Vaccinations Patrick Holford claims there is no need to vaccinate for whooping cough Patrick Holford and his recommendations for vaccines: as canard-stuffed as we [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] an FAQ for common mis-conceptions about vaccines. A Paediatrician&#8217;s Series on Vaccinations Patrick Holford claims there is no need to vaccinate for whooping cough Patrick Holford and his recommendations for vaccines: as canard-stuffed as we [...]</p>
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		<title>By: dvnutrix</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dvnutrix]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Holford does rely on Halvorsen to an extraordinary extent (4/14 references) and he promotes the lamentable &lt;i&gt;The Truth About Vaccines&lt;/i&gt; in several places on his own site.  There is plenty more incandescent irritation about to come concerning the &quot;extremely toxic...[and] poisonous&quot; levels of mercury and aluminium in vaccines.

We&#039;ve been lent Holford&#039;s last subscription mail out. There is a separate Special Report: &lt;i&gt;Salvestrols a major breakthrough in cancer prevention?&lt;/i&gt; It describes salvestrols as plants&#039; chemical warfare to defend themselves against attack. But somehow, chemical warfare in this instance doesn&#039;t equate to toxins. Oddly enough, because you can&#039;t eat the recommended amount of salvestrols from diet alone, there is a recommendation for supplementation via food concentrates and pills.

So, that&#039;s clear, thiomersal and aluminium in vaccines are toxins and the the amount is irrelevant even if the latter is acting as an &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.immunizationinfo.org/vaccine_components_detail.cfv?id=61&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;adjuvant&lt;/a&gt; and reducing the amount of antigens needed to stimulate a protective response. Salvestrols are chemical warfare but A Good Thing and anti-cancer and we don&#039;t get enough of them so you should supplement your intake in extraordinary amounts because they are natural extracts from organic food and it is impossible that that could be harmful.

So, that&#039;s evil v. good chemical warfare.

Your enhanced information about Mennonites is precisely what is so good about blogging. I will say though that I wonder if the differences were as pronounced back in 1938 although this might all be relatively speaking.

&lt;strong&gt;Edit: On related note, I&#039;ve just seen this comment about a date-related squabble about &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/jul/19/cancer.foodtech?commentid=31477fd9-ec87-4a61-b979-478f5241a135&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;toxins or not in white mushrooms&lt;/a&gt; which seems apposite.&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holford does rely on Halvorsen to an extraordinary extent (4/14 references) and he promotes the lamentable <i>The Truth About Vaccines</i> in several places on his own site.  There is plenty more incandescent irritation about to come concerning the &#8220;extremely toxic&#8230;[and] poisonous&#8221; levels of mercury and aluminium in vaccines.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve been lent Holford&#8217;s last subscription mail out. There is a separate Special Report: <i>Salvestrols a major breakthrough in cancer prevention?</i> It describes salvestrols as plants&#8217; chemical warfare to defend themselves against attack. But somehow, chemical warfare in this instance doesn&#8217;t equate to toxins. Oddly enough, because you can&#8217;t eat the recommended amount of salvestrols from diet alone, there is a recommendation for supplementation via food concentrates and pills.</p>
<p>So, that&#8217;s clear, thiomersal and aluminium in vaccines are toxins and the the amount is irrelevant even if the latter is acting as an <a href="http://www.immunizationinfo.org/vaccine_components_detail.cfv?id=61" rel="nofollow">adjuvant</a> and reducing the amount of antigens needed to stimulate a protective response. Salvestrols are chemical warfare but A Good Thing and anti-cancer and we don&#8217;t get enough of them so you should supplement your intake in extraordinary amounts because they are natural extracts from organic food and it is impossible that that could be harmful.</p>
<p>So, that&#8217;s evil v. good chemical warfare.</p>
<p>Your enhanced information about Mennonites is precisely what is so good about blogging. I will say though that I wonder if the differences were as pronounced back in 1938 although this might all be relatively speaking.</p>
<p><strong>Edit: On related note, I&#8217;ve just seen this comment about a date-related squabble about <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/jul/19/cancer.foodtech?commentid=31477fd9-ec87-4a61-b979-478f5241a135" rel="nofollow">toxins or not in white mushrooms</a> which seems apposite.</strong></p>
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		<title>By: draust</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Far more trivial, re Mennonites:

Not all Mennonites are like the popular image of the old order Amish.  A lot of moderate Mennonites have fully embraced modernity - plumbing, cars, aeroplanes, medicines, the whole nine yards. I know this because when I worked at the NIH I used to share a house with a guy who was a Mennonite - his parents  had been Mennonite missionaries in S. Africa. My Mennonite friend was resoundingly normal, went on  to medical school and is now a neurologist.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Far more trivial, re Mennonites:</p>
<p>Not all Mennonites are like the popular image of the old order Amish.  A lot of moderate Mennonites have fully embraced modernity &#8211; plumbing, cars, aeroplanes, medicines, the whole nine yards. I know this because when I worked at the NIH I used to share a house with a guy who was a Mennonite &#8211; his parents  had been Mennonite missionaries in S. Africa. My Mennonite friend was resoundingly normal, went on  to medical school and is now a neurologist.</p>
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		<title>By: draust</title>
		<link>http://holfordwatch.info/2008/07/16/patrick-holford-claims-there-is-no-need-to-vaccinate-for-whooping-cough/comment-page-1/#comment-10537</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I noticed &lt;a&gt;Richard Halvorsen&lt;/a&gt; got a mention from Patrick in connection with vaccines.  

Halvorsen, who is/was a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.holbornmedicalservices.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;private GP&lt;/a&gt; making a tidy living &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.babyjabs.co.uk/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;dishing out single vaccines to worried parents&lt;/a&gt;,  pops up regularly  in the papers advocating single jabs instead of MMR and making the usual noises about mercury and aluminium. He has also written a dire &quot;What doctors won&#039;t tell you&quot; type book adding fuel to the vaccine scares. Halvorsen rather reminds me of American &quot;paediatrician-to-the-Hollywood-stars&quot; &lt;a href=&quot;http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2008/07/dr_jay_gordon_pediatrician_to_the_stars.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dr Jay Gordon&lt;/a&gt;  that Orac writes about.  Halvorsen was also a minor &quot;beneficiary&quot; of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://briandeer.com/wakefield/legal-experts.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MMR law-suit legal aid gravy train&lt;/a&gt;.

It would be perfectly in keeping for Patrick to cite  Halvorsen as an authoritative source, given Patrick&#039;s previous enthusiasm  for &quot;Saint Andy&quot; Wakefield. What it basically does is make it ever clearer that Patrick has signed up to the &quot;Greening Our Vaccines&quot;  crypto-anti-vaccine line,as H&#039;watch noted earlier.

Of course, &lt;a href=&quot;http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2008/06/green_our_vaccines_anti-vaccine.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;Greening Our Vaccines&quot; is to  anti-vaccinationism&lt;/a&gt; precisely as &quot;Intelligent Design&quot; is to Creationism.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I noticed <a>Richard Halvorsen</a> got a mention from Patrick in connection with vaccines.  </p>
<p>Halvorsen, who is/was a <a href="http://www.holbornmedicalservices.com/" rel="nofollow">private GP</a> making a tidy living <a href="http://www.babyjabs.co.uk/" rel="nofollow">dishing out single vaccines to worried parents</a>,  pops up regularly  in the papers advocating single jabs instead of MMR and making the usual noises about mercury and aluminium. He has also written a dire &#8220;What doctors won&#8217;t tell you&#8221; type book adding fuel to the vaccine scares. Halvorsen rather reminds me of American &#8220;paediatrician-to-the-Hollywood-stars&#8221; <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2008/07/dr_jay_gordon_pediatrician_to_the_stars.php" rel="nofollow">Dr Jay Gordon</a>  that Orac writes about.  Halvorsen was also a minor &#8220;beneficiary&#8221; of the <a href="http://briandeer.com/wakefield/legal-experts.htm" rel="nofollow">MMR law-suit legal aid gravy train</a>.</p>
<p>It would be perfectly in keeping for Patrick to cite  Halvorsen as an authoritative source, given Patrick&#8217;s previous enthusiasm  for &#8220;Saint Andy&#8221; Wakefield. What it basically does is make it ever clearer that Patrick has signed up to the &#8220;Greening Our Vaccines&#8221;  crypto-anti-vaccine line,as H&#8217;watch noted earlier.</p>
<p>Of course, <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2008/06/green_our_vaccines_anti-vaccine.php" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Greening Our Vaccines&#8221; is to  anti-vaccinationism</a> precisely as &#8220;Intelligent Design&#8221; is to Creationism.</p>
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		<title>By: dvnutrix</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dvnutrix]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Jeff, whooping cough is horrible for both children and adults. It is profoundly irritating and irresponsible for Holford to state that it is unnecessary.


@Professor UKdietitian, as you say, if an anecdote of 2 trumps 1/4million in Holford&#039;s Alt.Reality (Dr Aust TM) then &lt;i&gt;Good Housekeeping&lt;/i&gt; outranks a super-journal made of up NEJM, Lancet and the Cochrane reviewers.

@Mary, you are possibly close to the mark in identifying the early formative influences on the infant Holford and his ideas.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jeff, whooping cough is horrible for both children and adults. It is profoundly irritating and irresponsible for Holford to state that it is unnecessary.</p>
<p>@Professor UKdietitian, as you say, if an anecdote of 2 trumps 1/4million in Holford&#8217;s Alt.Reality (Dr Aust TM) then <i>Good Housekeeping</i> outranks a super-journal made of up NEJM, Lancet and the Cochrane reviewers.</p>
<p>@Mary, you are possibly close to the mark in identifying the early formative influences on the infant Holford and his ideas.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Parsons</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary Parsons]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 20:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It might be worse - with his jocular references to invulnerability and remarks to the effect that supplements confer protection against disease, I strongly suspect that he has been using Marvel comics as his source of ideas.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It might be worse &#8211; with his jocular references to invulnerability and remarks to the effect that supplements confer protection against disease, I strongly suspect that he has been using Marvel comics as his source of ideas.</p>
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		<title>By: clare</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 06:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jff, m sk wh ppl fl th nd t st p wbsts nd tll vryn bt thmslvs. Thnks, nw knw tht y hv wf nd sm dgs, h nd y lk msc. Wht? Hw slf cntrd d y hv t b t thnk tht ppl wnt t knw ths stff! nthr nt jb, thnk.

&lt;strong&gt;Admin edit: Clare, that was deeply unpleasant. Any similar comments will not be allowed through in any form.&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jff, m sk wh ppl fl th nd t st p wbsts nd tll vryn bt thmslvs. Thnks, nw knw tht y hv wf nd sm dgs, h nd y lk msc. Wht? Hw slf cntrd d y hv t b t thnk tht ppl wnt t knw ths stff! nthr nt jb, thnk.</p>
<p><strong>Admin edit: Clare, that was deeply unpleasant. Any similar comments will not be allowed through in any form.</strong></p>
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		<title>By: UKdietitian</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[UKdietitian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[excellent post, Holfordwatchers

I love it that one of Holfords key references is from that scientific medical journal

&#039;Good Housekeeping&#039;

of similar calibre to his &#039;2 anecdotal subjects vs around 1/4 million people taking antioxidant supplements&#039; defensive arguments.

Wow. Such a grasp of popular opinion, whoops, clinical evidence.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>excellent post, Holfordwatchers</p>
<p>I love it that one of Holfords key references is from that scientific medical journal</p>
<p>&#8216;Good Housekeeping&#8217;</p>
<p>of similar calibre to his &#8217;2 anecdotal subjects vs around 1/4 million people taking antioxidant supplements&#8217; defensive arguments.</p>
<p>Wow. Such a grasp of popular opinion, whoops, clinical evidence.</p>
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