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		<title>By: Will Patrick Holford Be Calling Upon His Mailing List to Sign the New Andrew Wakefield Petition? If So, We&#8217;ve Made Some Annotations &#171; Holford Watch: Patrick Holford, nutritionism and bad science</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Will Patrick Holford Be Calling Upon His Mailing List to Sign the New Andrew Wakefield Petition? If So, We&#8217;ve Made Some Annotations &#171; Holford Watch: Patrick Holford, nutritionism and bad science]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 10:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] and proven commitment to children and the public health despite those pesky people who claim that immunisation protects children from illnesses that can have disastrous side-effects or outcomes. We have to continue to believe that both for our [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and proven commitment to children and the public health despite those pesky people who claim that immunisation protects children from illnesses that can have disastrous side-effects or outcomes. We have to continue to believe that both for our [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Some Rebuttals to Jeni Barnett&#8217;s Canards in Her LBC Radio MMR Segment &#171; Holford Watch: Patrick Holford, nutritionism and bad science</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 16:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] A first, formal port of call for people in the UK is the The Department of Health&#8217;s Green Book. For people in the US, there is the Pink Book of Epidemiology and Prevention of Vaccine Preventable Diseases. There are less formal summaries of some vaccines and preventable childhood illnesses [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] A first, formal port of call for people in the UK is the The Department of Health&#8217;s Green Book. For people in the US, there is the Pink Book of Epidemiology and Prevention of Vaccine Preventable Diseases. There are less formal summaries of some vaccines and preventable childhood illnesses [...]</p>
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		<title>By: HCN</title>
		<link>http://holfordwatch.info/2008/07/19/a-paediatricians-series-on-vaccinations/comment-page-1/#comment-11096</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 01:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My city library has one copy of the Mosquitoes book and I just placed a hold on it.  I love being able to use card catalogs on computer, and that they will deliver it to my neighborhood library!

I also found a PBS/BBC/Carlton TV documentary called &quot;Malaria:  Fever Wars&quot;, I asked for that one too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My city library has one copy of the Mosquitoes book and I just placed a hold on it.  I love being able to use card catalogs on computer, and that they will deliver it to my neighborhood library!</p>
<p>I also found a PBS/BBC/Carlton TV documentary called &#8220;Malaria:  Fever Wars&#8221;, I asked for that one too.</p>
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		<title>By: HCN</title>
		<link>http://holfordwatch.info/2008/07/19/a-paediatricians-series-on-vaccinations/comment-page-1/#comment-11095</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 01:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Gorgas Hospital name was dropped on purpose.  

There is an active work on creating a dengue fever vaccine, as it has changed over the years to become very nasty.  Basically causing non-stop bleeding everywhere, and having had it once does not guarantee one would be protected from its other nastier forms:
http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs117/en/

Just checked the wiki article on Ronald Ross, and noted that he had several contributions to applied math, since I plan to study that soon --- I will be sure to check out that book.  Thanks.

(by the way the book &quot;Panama Fever&quot; describes what makes the mosquito that transmits malaria much harder to eradicate than the one that transmits yellow fever, the latter preferred clean water near humans so tins of fresh water were left out and then after the larvae were floating on top they were summarily dumped on the ground).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Gorgas Hospital name was dropped on purpose.  </p>
<p>There is an active work on creating a dengue fever vaccine, as it has changed over the years to become very nasty.  Basically causing non-stop bleeding everywhere, and having had it once does not guarantee one would be protected from its other nastier forms:<br />
<a href="http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs117/en/" rel="nofollow">http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs117/en/</a></p>
<p>Just checked the wiki article on Ronald Ross, and noted that he had several contributions to applied math, since I plan to study that soon &#8212; I will be sure to check out that book.  Thanks.</p>
<p>(by the way the book &#8220;Panama Fever&#8221; describes what makes the mosquito that transmits malaria much harder to eradicate than the one that transmits yellow fever, the latter preferred clean water near humans so tins of fresh water were left out and then after the larvae were floating on top they were summarily dumped on the ground).</p>
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		<title>By: draust</title>
		<link>http://holfordwatch.info/2008/07/19/a-paediatricians-series-on-vaccinations/comment-page-1/#comment-11092</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 00:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi HCN

Interested to hear you were a military brat. I personally know one distinguished (US) scientist from such a B/G, though doubtless there are many.

Penny just dropped re. &quot;Gorgas Hospital&quot; as your birthplace - of course Gorgas was the US army doc trying to eradicate Yellow Fever. The &lt;i&gt;Mosquitoes...&lt;/i&gt; book recounts how &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Ross&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ronald Ross&lt;/a&gt; tried a similar thing with malaria as &quot;Army malaria supremo&quot; in British India, to essentially zero effect. The reasons for the differing successes of Gorgas and Ross is part of what the book is about. 

Impressed by your encounter w dengue fever. Dengue turned up on some list I read just recently of &quot;most common neglected diseases&quot; (i.e. most common diseases that are not much studied, or much effort put into cures and treatments, since first-world folk don&#039;t get them and hence there isn&#039;t any real money in it).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi HCN</p>
<p>Interested to hear you were a military brat. I personally know one distinguished (US) scientist from such a B/G, though doubtless there are many.</p>
<p>Penny just dropped re. &#8220;Gorgas Hospital&#8221; as your birthplace &#8211; of course Gorgas was the US army doc trying to eradicate Yellow Fever. The <i>Mosquitoes&#8230;</i> book recounts how <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Ross" rel="nofollow">Ronald Ross</a> tried a similar thing with malaria as &#8220;Army malaria supremo&#8221; in British India, to essentially zero effect. The reasons for the differing successes of Gorgas and Ross is part of what the book is about. </p>
<p>Impressed by your encounter w dengue fever. Dengue turned up on some list I read just recently of &#8220;most common neglected diseases&#8221; (i.e. most common diseases that are not much studied, or much effort put into cures and treatments, since first-world folk don&#8217;t get them and hence there isn&#8217;t any real money in it).</p>
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		<title>By: HCN</title>
		<link>http://holfordwatch.info/2008/07/19/a-paediatricians-series-on-vaccinations/comment-page-1/#comment-11059</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 04:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[dvnutrix said &quot;and she said that it was Junior Ratings.&quot;

The generic form is &quot;military brat&quot;, but that is perfectly accurate.  We are an odd bunch, having survived several years of being without a parental unit (who is overseas being shot at), or changing schools (I graduated from the 9th school district I attended).

Dr.  Aust, that sounds like a very good read.  William McNeill&#039;s &quot;Plagues and Peoples&quot; is also a bit dry at times, but on the whole was fascinating.

By the way, I have survived another mosquito born disease:  dengue fever.  The trick is that surviving it once does not confer immunity, but makes one more vulnerable to a deadly form of dengue fever.  Yikes!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dvnutrix said &#8220;and she said that it was Junior Ratings.&#8221;</p>
<p>The generic form is &#8220;military brat&#8221;, but that is perfectly accurate.  We are an odd bunch, having survived several years of being without a parental unit (who is overseas being shot at), or changing schools (I graduated from the 9th school district I attended).</p>
<p>Dr.  Aust, that sounds like a very good read.  William McNeill&#8217;s &#8220;Plagues and Peoples&#8221; is also a bit dry at times, but on the whole was fascinating.</p>
<p>By the way, I have survived another mosquito born disease:  dengue fever.  The trick is that surviving it once does not confer immunity, but makes one more vulnerable to a deadly form of dengue fever.  Yikes!</p>
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		<title>By: draust</title>
		<link>http://holfordwatch.info/2008/07/19/a-paediatricians-series-on-vaccinations/comment-page-1/#comment-11058</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 01:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Absolutely nothing to do with vaccines, but...

...for anyone interested in tropical diseases  and/or examples of scientific / medical hubris, a good read is Gordon Harrison&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Mosquitoes-malaria-man-history-hostilities/dp/0525160256&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Mosquitoes, malaria, and man: A history of the hostilities since 1880&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.

(Now out of print, but should be in many Univ and public libraries, plus available 2nd hand)
 
It is a bit dry and scholarly in parts, but makes a fascinating read especially for its account of the doomed &quot;War on Malaria&quot; via trying to eradicate the vector, i.e. the pesky &lt;i&gt;Anopheles&lt;/i&gt;.

- The lack of success of which endeavour emphasises once again why we DO need the vaccine researchers to go on trying to make a malaria vaccine, elusive though it has been. 

Of course, if vaccines continue to be demonized, then there is always the chance that vaccine research will become something that scientists, doctors and manufacturers prefer not to bother with.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely nothing to do with vaccines, but&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;for anyone interested in tropical diseases  and/or examples of scientific / medical hubris, a good read is Gordon Harrison&#8217;s <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Mosquitoes-malaria-man-history-hostilities/dp/0525160256" rel="nofollow"><i>Mosquitoes, malaria, and man: A history of the hostilities since 1880</i></a>.</p>
<p>(Now out of print, but should be in many Univ and public libraries, plus available 2nd hand)</p>
<p>It is a bit dry and scholarly in parts, but makes a fascinating read especially for its account of the doomed &#8220;War on Malaria&#8221; via trying to eradicate the vector, i.e. the pesky <i>Anopheles</i>.</p>
<p>- The lack of success of which endeavour emphasises once again why we DO need the vaccine researchers to go on trying to make a malaria vaccine, elusive though it has been. </p>
<p>Of course, if vaccines continue to be demonized, then there is always the chance that vaccine research will become something that scientists, doctors and manufacturers prefer not to bother with.</p>
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		<title>By: dvnutrix</title>
		<link>http://holfordwatch.info/2008/07/19/a-paediatricians-series-on-vaccinations/comment-page-1/#comment-11057</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dvnutrix]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 00:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some time ago I asked someone whose father had been in the US Navy and had had a fair share of postings around the world what the Navy equivalent of Army Brat was - and she said that it was Junior Ratings.

I&#039;ll edit Dr Crislip&#039;s piece into the main post because it is readable - thank you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some time ago I asked someone whose father had been in the US Navy and had had a fair share of postings around the world what the Navy equivalent of Army Brat was &#8211; and she said that it was Junior Ratings.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll edit Dr Crislip&#8217;s piece into the main post because it is readable &#8211; thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: HCN</title>
		<link>http://holfordwatch.info/2008/07/19/a-paediatricians-series-on-vaccinations/comment-page-1/#comment-11048</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[HCN]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 22:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for the welcome.  I am presently reading the very interesting and well written book called &quot;Panama Fever&quot; by Matthew Parker.  Lots on the effects and eradication of yellow fever (I got my first yellow fever vaccine shortly after being born in Gorgas Hospital in Panama).  As an Army brat I&#039;ve been jabbed more than most, and I seem to be okay.

By the way, today another very readable article on vaccines by an actual infectious disease doctor was posted here:
http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=186]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the welcome.  I am presently reading the very interesting and well written book called &#8220;Panama Fever&#8221; by Matthew Parker.  Lots on the effects and eradication of yellow fever (I got my first yellow fever vaccine shortly after being born in Gorgas Hospital in Panama).  As an Army brat I&#8217;ve been jabbed more than most, and I seem to be okay.</p>
<p>By the way, today another very readable article on vaccines by an actual infectious disease doctor was posted here:<br />
<a href="http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=186" rel="nofollow">http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=186</a></p>
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		<title>By: dvnutrix</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dvnutrix]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 00:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[HCN - nice to see you here. Flea put up a very good series of posts that are eminently readable on these  topics.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HCN &#8211; nice to see you here. Flea put up a very good series of posts that are eminently readable on these  topics.</p>
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