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	<title>Comments on: Patent Medicines in the UK: Entrepreneurs Remain the Same and Sometimes the Products Aren&#8217;t That Different</title>
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	<description>The truth about Patrick Holford, media nutritionist</description>
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		<title>By: dvnutrix</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 14:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Exactly. Much of the shame belongs in the UK even if some of the most spectacular showmen have been from the US: see the splendid &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.badscience.net/2008/03/the-hadacol-boogie/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Senator Le Blanc and Hadacol&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly. Much of the shame belongs in the UK even if some of the most spectacular showmen have been from the US: see the splendid <a href="http://www.badscience.net/2008/03/the-hadacol-boogie/" rel="nofollow">Senator Le Blanc and Hadacol</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: MedsVsTherapy</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is some U.S. / U.K. tension here. The patent medicine tradition came out of England, before there was a U.S. You have your own tradition of hucksters and medicine shows to be ashamed of; no need to point to the U.S. as the purveyors of patent meds.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is some U.S. / U.K. tension here. The patent medicine tradition came out of England, before there was a U.S. You have your own tradition of hucksters and medicine shows to be ashamed of; no need to point to the U.S. as the purveyors of patent meds.</p>
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		<title>By: dvnutrix</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dvnutrix]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 12:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s on the &quot;to read&quot; list but if you recommend it, then I shall move it up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s on the &#8220;to read&#8221; list but if you recommend it, then I shall move it up.</p>
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		<title>By: dvnutrix</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dvnutrix]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 12:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[True but Kellogg was an American and we were collecting british enterpreneurs for various reasons. However, Ben Goldacre had a good segment on Kellogg in his radio serial, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/science/lifestyle_nutritionists_2progs.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Rise of the Lifestyle Nutritionists&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt; (prog. 1, iirc). And yes, em, corn flakes were probably a delightful health food at the time but as for other properties, we couldn&#039;t possibly comment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True but Kellogg was an American and we were collecting british enterpreneurs for various reasons. However, Ben Goldacre had a good segment on Kellogg in his radio serial, <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/science/lifestyle_nutritionists_2progs.shtml" rel="nofollow"><i>The Rise of the Lifestyle Nutritionists</i></a> (prog. 1, iirc). And yes, em, corn flakes were probably a delightful health food at the time but as for other properties, we couldn&#8217;t possibly comment.</p>
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		<title>By: John H</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John H]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 11:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The life of Kellog is also pretty noteworthy in this respect. 

He allowed his strange views on sexuality to overflow into his views on diet.

Whilst corn flakes were probably a fairly healthy food at the time he mainly saw them as a means of preventing masturbation. Doesn&#039;t seem to work in boarding schools and the military where the two go hand in hand (so to speak) !]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The life of Kellog is also pretty noteworthy in this respect. </p>
<p>He allowed his strange views on sexuality to overflow into his views on diet.</p>
<p>Whilst corn flakes were probably a fairly healthy food at the time he mainly saw them as a means of preventing masturbation. Doesn&#8217;t seem to work in boarding schools and the military where the two go hand in hand (so to speak) !</p>
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		<title>By: Marge</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marge]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 12:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Roy Porter&#039;s &quot;Quacks: Fakers and Charlatans in Medicine&quot; is also worth a read, concentrating on the early modern period.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roy Porter&#8217;s &#8220;Quacks: Fakers and Charlatans in Medicine&#8221; is also worth a read, concentrating on the early modern period.</p>
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		<title>By: dvnutrix</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dvnutrix]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 11:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Morison was credited with several phrases involving &lt;i&gt;humbug&lt;/i&gt; in the OED.

I haven&#039;t read any of Roy Porter&#039;s work on patent medicines or secret remedies from the Middle Ages onwards but they are probably quite eye-opening.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Morison was credited with several phrases involving <i>humbug</i> in the OED.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t read any of Roy Porter&#8217;s work on patent medicines or secret remedies from the Middle Ages onwards but they are probably quite eye-opening.</p>
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		<title>By: tifosi246</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tifosi246]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 13:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for this. Fascinating how Holford, McKeith and co are simply re-treads of Morison and others. Not that they&#039;d know it, of course, because that would require some research and above interest in what other people might have done so that you a) don&#039;t repeat their mistakes and b) don&#039;t claim to have invented things like GI diets when the literature shows you beaten to it. Integrity, bah, humbug!

The efforts of the early patent medicine promoters clearly laid the groundwork for ready public acceptance of Holford&#039;s bad science. With a debt like that, I&#039;ll look out for a dedication to Morison in the next Holford opus.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this. Fascinating how Holford, McKeith and co are simply re-treads of Morison and others. Not that they&#8217;d know it, of course, because that would require some research and above interest in what other people might have done so that you a) don&#8217;t repeat their mistakes and b) don&#8217;t claim to have invented things like GI diets when the literature shows you beaten to it. Integrity, bah, humbug!</p>
<p>The efforts of the early patent medicine promoters clearly laid the groundwork for ready public acceptance of Holford&#8217;s bad science. With a debt like that, I&#8217;ll look out for a dedication to Morison in the next Holford opus.</p>
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