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	<title>Comments on: Canard-ridden Holford interview in National Health Executive Review</title>
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	<description>The truth about Patrick Holford, media nutritionist</description>
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		<title>By: The First Nutritionista&#8217;s Song &#171; Dr Aust&#8217;s Spleen</title>
		<link>http://holfordwatch.info/2008/11/17/canard-ridden-holford-interview-in-national-health-executive-review/comment-page-1/#comment-13281</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The First Nutritionista&#8217;s Song &#171; Dr Aust&#8217;s Spleen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 22:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] it had been a while since I wrote anything about our friends the Nutritionistas. And then I saw this amusing – if rather depressing – piece about an Old Friend of the BadScience Blogosphere who is something of a National Nutritionista [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] it had been a while since I wrote anything about our friends the Nutritionistas. And then I saw this amusing – if rather depressing – piece about an Old Friend of the BadScience Blogosphere who is something of a National Nutritionista [...]</p>
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		<title>By: draust</title>
		<link>http://holfordwatch.info/2008/11/17/canard-ridden-holford-interview-in-national-health-executive-review/comment-page-1/#comment-13266</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[draust]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 11:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have another musical parody nearly done which pokes fun at our Nutritionista chums. Doesn&#039;t have a verse on &quot;stealth marketing&quot;, though, I&#039;m afraid.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have another musical parody nearly done which pokes fun at our Nutritionista chums. Doesn&#8217;t have a verse on &#8220;stealth marketing&#8221;, though, I&#8217;m afraid.</p>
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		<title>By: dvnutrix</title>
		<link>http://holfordwatch.info/2008/11/17/canard-ridden-holford-interview-in-national-health-executive-review/comment-page-1/#comment-13265</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dvnutrix]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 10:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The question is whether there are senior people in the NHS who resonate with this message about being the heroic, plucky underdog, with the message to save us all, but to whom &lt;i&gt;The Powers That Be Won&#039;t Listen&lt;/i&gt;. My guess is that there are.

The next question is whether they would read the article and be well-disposed to considering any applications to PCTs etc. (as per &lt;a href=&quot;http://holfordwatch.info/2008/11/16/who-wrote-about-food-for-the-brain-in-the-economist-conflict-of-interest/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the appeal&lt;/a&gt;) that:
*they should introduce nutritional therapy into their addiction treatment centres
*they should accept contracts from private treatment centres that offer beds and this treatment.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.biocare.co.uk/page.php?identity=biocare_science&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Holford and Miller Masterclass: Nutritional Strategies for Breaking Addiction&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;blockquote&gt;“Millions of people struggle unnecessarily with addiction and cravings. We need an army of nutritional therapists up to speed with what really works.” Patrick Holford
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
So, Patrick Holford gets money for:
*giving seminars about his book to the public
*training IONistas 
*delivering masterclasses to train IONistas and allied health professionals in nutritional strategies for addiction (never mind the messy emotional stuff, family work etc. etc.)
*his book, video and supporting materials
*any sales of his recommended supplements that they prescribe
*presumably, he gets a slice of any referrals to the FFTB or Brain Bio Centre.
And all for the financial outlay of writing a book that contains no original research (qua bench research, appropriate trials in  appropriate facilities) and can basically be stitched together from some Googling and linking up work by other people (Miller and Braly probably contributed their own work that hasn&#039;t been published in one of the expected venues).

Holford has great emotional, business and financial acumen.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The question is whether there are senior people in the NHS who resonate with this message about being the heroic, plucky underdog, with the message to save us all, but to whom <i>The Powers That Be Won&#8217;t Listen</i>. My guess is that there are.</p>
<p>The next question is whether they would read the article and be well-disposed to considering any applications to PCTs etc. (as per <a href="http://holfordwatch.info/2008/11/16/who-wrote-about-food-for-the-brain-in-the-economist-conflict-of-interest/" rel="nofollow">the appeal</a>) that:<br />
*they should introduce nutritional therapy into their addiction treatment centres<br />
*they should accept contracts from private treatment centres that offer beds and this treatment.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.biocare.co.uk/page.php?identity=biocare_science" rel="nofollow">Holford and Miller Masterclass: Nutritional Strategies for Breaking Addiction</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>“Millions of people struggle unnecessarily with addiction and cravings. We need an army of nutritional therapists up to speed with what really works.” Patrick Holford
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<p>So, Patrick Holford gets money for:<br />
*giving seminars about his book to the public<br />
*training IONistas<br />
*delivering masterclasses to train IONistas and allied health professionals in nutritional strategies for addiction (never mind the messy emotional stuff, family work etc. etc.)<br />
*his book, video and supporting materials<br />
*any sales of his recommended supplements that they prescribe<br />
*presumably, he gets a slice of any referrals to the FFTB or Brain Bio Centre.<br />
And all for the financial outlay of writing a book that contains no original research (qua bench research, appropriate trials in  appropriate facilities) and can basically be stitched together from some Googling and linking up work by other people (Miller and Braly probably contributed their own work that hasn&#8217;t been published in one of the expected venues).</p>
<p>Holford has great emotional, business and financial acumen.</p>
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		<title>By: Claire</title>
		<link>http://holfordwatch.info/2008/11/17/canard-ridden-holford-interview-in-national-health-executive-review/comment-page-1/#comment-13263</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Claire]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 09:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That editorial guide is a bit of hoot, isn&#039;t it? Basically boils down to &quot;don&#039;t be too obvious about advertising your wares and we&#039;ll happily promote you/your product&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That editorial guide is a bit of hoot, isn&#8217;t it? Basically boils down to &#8220;don&#8217;t be too obvious about advertising your wares and we&#8217;ll happily promote you/your product&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: draust</title>
		<link>http://holfordwatch.info/2008/11/17/canard-ridden-holford-interview-in-national-health-executive-review/comment-page-1/#comment-13255</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[draust]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 01:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So let me get this straight:  it&#039;s really paid advertising. 

How utterly surprising, then, that it should present best-selling author, wealthy supplement entrepreneur and highly paid TV Nutritionista Patrick as a &quot;plucky underdog&quot;, in Wulfstan&#039;s phrase.

One can only conclude that being the underdog helps shift the product.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So let me get this straight:  it&#8217;s really paid advertising. </p>
<p>How utterly surprising, then, that it should present best-selling author, wealthy supplement entrepreneur and highly paid TV Nutritionista Patrick as a &#8220;plucky underdog&#8221;, in Wulfstan&#8217;s phrase.</p>
<p>One can only conclude that being the underdog helps shift the product.</p>
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		<title>By: dvnutrix</title>
		<link>http://holfordwatch.info/2008/11/17/canard-ridden-holford-interview-in-national-health-executive-review/comment-page-1/#comment-13254</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dvnutrix]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow - so nothing about accuracy, appropriateness, sense of perspective or other such mundanities. Basically, pay for a number of words, write it as if somebody else is writing it about you, submit it in Word format, hand it in before the copy deadline and that&#039;s you.

That is...whatever the appropriate word is in this context.

@Duck, given how very young York&#039;s Psychology degree was back then, I should imagine there was even less nutrition content than there is now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow &#8211; so nothing about accuracy, appropriateness, sense of perspective or other such mundanities. Basically, pay for a number of words, write it as if somebody else is writing it about you, submit it in Word format, hand it in before the copy deadline and that&#8217;s you.</p>
<p>That is&#8230;whatever the appropriate word is in this context.</p>
<p>@Duck, given how very young York&#8217;s Psychology degree was back then, I should imagine there was even less nutrition content than there is now.</p>
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		<title>By: Claire</title>
		<link>http://holfordwatch.info/2008/11/17/canard-ridden-holford-interview-in-national-health-executive-review/comment-page-1/#comment-13242</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Claire]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:17:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Grr - corrected link!
 &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nationalhealthexecutive.com/Links/Guide%20to%20editorial%20composition.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Seems like you can write your own editorial material&lt;/a&gt;  for NHE. Hmm...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grr &#8211; corrected link!<br />
 <a href="http://www.nationalhealthexecutive.com/Links/Guide%20to%20editorial%20composition.pdf" rel="nofollow">Seems like you can write your own editorial material</a>  for NHE. Hmm&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Claire</title>
		<link>http://holfordwatch.info/2008/11/17/canard-ridden-holford-interview-in-national-health-executive-review/comment-page-1/#comment-13241</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Claire]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nationalhealthexecutive.com/Links/Guide%20to%20editorial%20composition.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Seems like you can write your own editorial material&lt;/a&gt; for NHE. Hmm...

&lt;strong&gt;Admin edit to fix html
Update - and crossed the correction&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.nationalhealthexecutive.com/Links/Guide%20to%20editorial%20composition.pdf" rel="nofollow">Seems like you can write your own editorial material</a> for NHE. Hmm&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>Admin edit to fix html<br />
Update &#8211; and crossed the correction</strong></p>
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		<title>By: dvnutrix</title>
		<link>http://holfordwatch.info/2008/11/17/canard-ridden-holford-interview-in-national-health-executive-review/comment-page-1/#comment-13233</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dvnutrix]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 12:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[jdc, yes, there are people who react badly if you disagree with them or try to stop them from putting their little brother&#039;s wet fingers in an open socket. Allegedly, they perceive this as a personal affront or hostile attack.

To borrow from Wulfstan, that&#039;s Holford&#039;s Weltanschauung  and that&#039;s fine. But, at the risk of sounding as if I have a bad case of the 3rd person effect, I don&#039;t think it is fine when that interview is presented to Holford&#039;s mailing-list as if it is evidence of a tacit acknowledgement of that Weltanschauung .

It&#039;s getting to be pretty depressing.  In the past few weeks we&#039;ve had:
* a &lt;a href=&quot;http://holfordwatch.info/2008/10/14/medical-news-today-rescinds-a-patrick-holford-press-release/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;misunderstanding as to the source of a Holford press release&lt;/a&gt; that somehow looked as if it came from NTA
*an article on &lt;a href=&quot;http://holfordwatch.info/2008/11/16/who-wrote-about-food-for-the-brain-in-the-economist-conflict-of-interest/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;nutritional approaches to treating addiction in &lt;i&gt;The Economist&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt; that deviated from the usual standards and was written by Jerome Burne
*a credulous piece in NHE that may or may not have been pay-to-print that doesn&#039;t challenge Holford in any way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jdc, yes, there are people who react badly if you disagree with them or try to stop them from putting their little brother&#8217;s wet fingers in an open socket. Allegedly, they perceive this as a personal affront or hostile attack.</p>
<p>To borrow from Wulfstan, that&#8217;s Holford&#8217;s Weltanschauung  and that&#8217;s fine. But, at the risk of sounding as if I have a bad case of the 3rd person effect, I don&#8217;t think it is fine when that interview is presented to Holford&#8217;s mailing-list as if it is evidence of a tacit acknowledgement of that Weltanschauung .</p>
<p>It&#8217;s getting to be pretty depressing.  In the past few weeks we&#8217;ve had:<br />
* a <a href="http://holfordwatch.info/2008/10/14/medical-news-today-rescinds-a-patrick-holford-press-release/" rel="nofollow">misunderstanding as to the source of a Holford press release</a> that somehow looked as if it came from NTA<br />
*an article on <a href="http://holfordwatch.info/2008/11/16/who-wrote-about-food-for-the-brain-in-the-economist-conflict-of-interest/" rel="nofollow">nutritional approaches to treating addiction in <i>The Economist</i></a> that deviated from the usual standards and was written by Jerome Burne<br />
*a credulous piece in NHE that may or may not have been pay-to-print that doesn&#8217;t challenge Holford in any way.</p>
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		<title>By: jdc325</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jdc325]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 12:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jesus. Did they seriously write &quot;extraordinarily hostile&quot; in relation to people criticising Holford? Excuse me while I retrieve my jaw from the floor.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jesus. Did they seriously write &#8220;extraordinarily hostile&#8221; in relation to people criticising Holford? Excuse me while I retrieve my jaw from the floor.</p>
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