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By: Wulfstan

Wulfstan — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 14:31:53 +0000

:-) for the natural butter.

I was reading about someone who had made full use of a special offer for Peanut M&Ms (nasty import – what’s wrong with Treets – I digress). People made the usual sarky comments, questioning her nutritional and calorific judgment and she snipped back – which led to this.

No prob with the weight as I cycle about 100 miles a week!!

I drive 200 miles a week and I’m as fat as a house. Could there be a link?

Dr Aust, these people do seem to circulate but it is distressing how little they change their minds, despite their exposure to better interpretations.

By: draust

draust — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 12:24:37 +0000

Dr Aust - courtesy of LeeT, it seems that despite the period in the 80-90s when ION disappeared from Companies House, they are nonetheless holding a conference and dinner to celebrate their Silver Jubilee.

.and all for the bargain price of £ 50.00. Delightful. BTW, it seems an old nutritionista friend of yours has turned up to berate me over at Dr Aust's Spleen.

By: dvnutrix

dvnutrix — Tue, 30 Dec 2008 23:17:22 +0000

Wulfstan - how's that treating the calories from butter as non-existent due to naturalness working out for you? This could be your very own, media-hyped diet plan as it's about as sensible as most of the ones that are out there. However, I take your point that butter from milk is approximately as natural as concentrate from the fruit. Dr Aust - courtesy of LeeT, it seems that despite the period in the 80-90s when ION disappeared from Companies House, they are nonetheless holding a conference and dinner to celebrate their Silver Jubilee. Perhaps you might offer to perform The First Nutritionista's Song for them, after the dinner? They really should offer a Dip.Chutzpah, a topic in which they are truly second to no-one else.

By: draust

draust — Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:20:39 +0000

Goodness me, He hasn't lost his touch, then. Would I be being too self-promoting if I suggested that a quick read of "The First Nutritionista's Song" might make you think that this is a case of Life Imitating Art?

Nutritionist: I know what’s best for you and me Vitamins A, B, C, D and E My supplements are just as good as eating fruit Chorus: And so say the graduates of his Institute!

By: Wulfstan

Wulfstan — Tue, 30 Dec 2008 20:57:57 +0000

Judging by the figures in Holford’s table, would it be fair to say that he also chose some very-low-in-ORAC-value fruit and vegetables (apart from the banana) to make the ‘comparison’.

I am not the ‘academic lynchpin of nutritionism’ but it looks like if I had a Red Delicious for breakfast, with a scattering of dried fruit (raisins, demi-sec prunes, cranberries), alongside some porridge and a cup of coffee; some bean soup for lunch, with a few pecans and a pear; some mid-afternoon chocolate; cabbage and a sweet potato with fish for dinner, with some berries for pudding – and a small glass of wine, followed by cocoa before bed – I’d be awash with ORACs and heading for a daily amount of 20,000, if I so desired.

I hope you realise that it is obvious that the 26g carbs, of which 21g are sugars don’t count as calories because they are natural – that’s the same reasoning that I use with butter.