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	<title>Comments on: Jeni Barnett and the Phone Call with Yasmin on the LBC MMR Segment</title>
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	<description>The truth about Patrick Holford, media nutritionist</description>
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		<title>By: glenis</title>
		<link>http://holfordwatch.info/2009/02/06/jeni-barnett-and-the-phone-call-with-yasmin-on-the-lbc-mmr-segment/comment-page-2/#comment-39946</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[glenis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Oct 2010 14:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think Yasmin did a wonderful job of pulling down jen&#039;s self-opinionated drivel.  I have enjoyed Jeni&#039;s programmes many times but thought this was just a little too much - and switched off after that day!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Yasmin did a wonderful job of pulling down jen&#8217;s self-opinionated drivel.  I have enjoyed Jeni&#8217;s programmes many times but thought this was just a little too much &#8211; and switched off after that day!</p>
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		<title>By: dvnutrix</title>
		<link>http://holfordwatch.info/2009/02/06/jeni-barnett-and-the-phone-call-with-yasmin-on-the-lbc-mmr-segment/comment-page-2/#comment-18900</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dvnutrix]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 10:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Or, without sight of the paper which is a &lt;a href=&quot;http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/abstract/244/8/804&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;case-series of 4 siblings&lt;/a&gt;, it might indicate that some of the quotations can not be generalised?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or, without sight of the paper which is a <a href="http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/abstract/244/8/804" rel="nofollow">case-series of 4 siblings</a>, it might indicate that some of the quotations can not be generalised?</p>
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		<title>By: dvnutrix</title>
		<link>http://holfordwatch.info/2009/02/06/jeni-barnett-and-the-phone-call-with-yasmin-on-the-lbc-mmr-segment/comment-page-2/#comment-18899</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dvnutrix]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 09:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry about this but thought, on balance, that it is a useful reminder of some of what is entangled in the anti-vax way of thinking...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry about this but thought, on balance, that it is a useful reminder of some of what is entangled in the anti-vax way of thinking&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ivenho</title>
		<link>http://holfordwatch.info/2009/02/06/jeni-barnett-and-the-phone-call-with-yasmin-on-the-lbc-mmr-segment/comment-page-2/#comment-18898</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ivenho]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 09:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Microbiology at Fort Detrick, Maryland, April 27, 1979. 
&quot;Prior to the time doctors began giving rubella (measles) vaccinations, an estimated 85% of adults were naturally immune to the disease (for life). Because of immunization, the vast majority of women never acquire natural immunity (or lifetime protection).&quot; 
  Dr. Robert Mendelsohn, Let&#039;s Live, December 1983, as quoted by Carolyn Reuben in the LA Weekly, June 28, 1985. 
&quot;Adminstration of KMV (killed measles vaccine) apparently set in motion an aberrant immunologic response that not only failed to protect children against natural measles, but resulted in heightened susceptibility.&quot; JAMA Aug. 22, 1980, vol. 244, p. 804, Vincent Fulginiti and Ray Helfer. The authors indicate that such falsely protected children can come down with &quot;an often severe, atypical form of measles. Atypical measles is characterized by fever, headache... and a diverse rash (which)... may consist of a mixture of macules, papules, vesicles, and pustules... &quot; 
To even an untrained eye, these quotes should signal the fact that THERE IS MUCH MORE WE HAVE NOT SEEN.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Microbiology at Fort Detrick, Maryland, April 27, 1979.<br />
&#8220;Prior to the time doctors began giving rubella (measles) vaccinations, an estimated 85% of adults were naturally immune to the disease (for life). Because of immunization, the vast majority of women never acquire natural immunity (or lifetime protection).&#8221;<br />
  Dr. Robert Mendelsohn, Let&#8217;s Live, December 1983, as quoted by Carolyn Reuben in the LA Weekly, June 28, 1985.<br />
&#8220;Adminstration of KMV (killed measles vaccine) apparently set in motion an aberrant immunologic response that not only failed to protect children against natural measles, but resulted in heightened susceptibility.&#8221; JAMA Aug. 22, 1980, vol. 244, p. 804, Vincent Fulginiti and Ray Helfer. The authors indicate that such falsely protected children can come down with &#8220;an often severe, atypical form of measles. Atypical measles is characterized by fever, headache&#8230; and a diverse rash (which)&#8230; may consist of a mixture of macules, papules, vesicles, and pustules&#8230; &#8221;<br />
To even an untrained eye, these quotes should signal the fact that THERE IS MUCH MORE WE HAVE NOT SEEN.</p>
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		<title>By: ivenho</title>
		<link>http://holfordwatch.info/2009/02/06/jeni-barnett-and-the-phone-call-with-yasmin-on-the-lbc-mmr-segment/comment-page-2/#comment-18891</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ivenho]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 07:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[NOW YOU MAY WANT TO GUESS WHO WROTE THE FOLLOWING - BUT IN ORDER THAT YOU DO NOT DISCREDIT HIS QUALIFICATIONS, AUTHENTICITY, ETHICS, OR FIND A SPELLING MISTAKE TO DIVERT ATTENTION - I SHALL NOT SAY HIS NAME IT IS TO BE DISCLOSED SOON.

“When the toxic anthrax vaccine was given to gigantic numbers of soldiers departing for Gulf War One, did you immediately hear about health problems? No, you heard NOTHING. It was only long after the cessation of activity in Iraq that the first reports came trickling in, and they were quickly discredited. 

We are taught to believe that vaccines are very safe and very effective in preventing diseases. We are shielded from reports that come to opposite conclusions. 

Here is a collection of lesser-known data on vaccines in general. On various vaccines. Keep in mind that when I compiled this collection, many years ago, I was writing about AIDS. I was demonstrating that AIDS is really IMMUNE SUPPRESSION stemming from a number of different causes, none of which was HIV. I was saying that one of these causes was VACCINES. 

Once you break through the disinformation barrier on vaccines, you can look at the currently announced OP on smallpox vaccine with a new set of eyes. 

For years, critics on the fringes of medicine have pointed to problems with vaccines. It is generally acknowledged that, given to people whose immune systems are compromised, they can be immunosuppressive. And from time to time, stories have surfaced about vaccines which have been contaminated by extraneous viruses or bacteria, as a result of the manufacturing process. 

We are taught to believe that untoward reactions to vaccines are rare, and that there has never been a question about the overwhelming success of all vaccines at all times, wherever they have been used. 

The recent history of vaccines, though, shows a much more spotty record than one might think. In fact, it raises very disturbing questions about what vaccines do and don’t do to the human body. Here is simply a series of excerpts from several authors on the subject. It is a quite different slant on vaccines.”

The pharmaceuticals are well aware of the hazards of vaccines and they cover the web, with Gimpy’s blogs, Jack of Kent, Ben Goldacre, so that cotrary data to the lies and disease they spread that counts on the ignorance of the masses never stops. That is so that nobody stops them to make their billions.

The PHARMACEUTICALS are more INSIDIOUS than any of the the warmongers, and the weapons industry. They spread more harm, as for weapons, they are clearly lethal, BUT THE PHARMACUETICALS appear in the guise of the knowledgeable saviours of public well being, are so powerful nowadays they buy off governments, they bought off the EU.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NOW YOU MAY WANT TO GUESS WHO WROTE THE FOLLOWING &#8211; BUT IN ORDER THAT YOU DO NOT DISCREDIT HIS QUALIFICATIONS, AUTHENTICITY, ETHICS, OR FIND A SPELLING MISTAKE TO DIVERT ATTENTION &#8211; I SHALL NOT SAY HIS NAME IT IS TO BE DISCLOSED SOON.</p>
<p>“When the toxic anthrax vaccine was given to gigantic numbers of soldiers departing for Gulf War One, did you immediately hear about health problems? No, you heard NOTHING. It was only long after the cessation of activity in Iraq that the first reports came trickling in, and they were quickly discredited. </p>
<p>We are taught to believe that vaccines are very safe and very effective in preventing diseases. We are shielded from reports that come to opposite conclusions. </p>
<p>Here is a collection of lesser-known data on vaccines in general. On various vaccines. Keep in mind that when I compiled this collection, many years ago, I was writing about AIDS. I was demonstrating that AIDS is really IMMUNE SUPPRESSION stemming from a number of different causes, none of which was HIV. I was saying that one of these causes was VACCINES. </p>
<p>Once you break through the disinformation barrier on vaccines, you can look at the currently announced OP on smallpox vaccine with a new set of eyes. </p>
<p>For years, critics on the fringes of medicine have pointed to problems with vaccines. It is generally acknowledged that, given to people whose immune systems are compromised, they can be immunosuppressive. And from time to time, stories have surfaced about vaccines which have been contaminated by extraneous viruses or bacteria, as a result of the manufacturing process. </p>
<p>We are taught to believe that untoward reactions to vaccines are rare, and that there has never been a question about the overwhelming success of all vaccines at all times, wherever they have been used. </p>
<p>The recent history of vaccines, though, shows a much more spotty record than one might think. In fact, it raises very disturbing questions about what vaccines do and don’t do to the human body. Here is simply a series of excerpts from several authors on the subject. It is a quite different slant on vaccines.”</p>
<p>The pharmaceuticals are well aware of the hazards of vaccines and they cover the web, with Gimpy’s blogs, Jack of Kent, Ben Goldacre, so that cotrary data to the lies and disease they spread that counts on the ignorance of the masses never stops. That is so that nobody stops them to make their billions.</p>
<p>The PHARMACEUTICALS are more INSIDIOUS than any of the the warmongers, and the weapons industry. They spread more harm, as for weapons, they are clearly lethal, BUT THE PHARMACUETICALS appear in the guise of the knowledgeable saviours of public well being, are so powerful nowadays they buy off governments, they bought off the EU.</p>
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		<title>By: dvnutrix</title>
		<link>http://holfordwatch.info/2009/02/06/jeni-barnett-and-the-phone-call-with-yasmin-on-the-lbc-mmr-segment/comment-page-2/#comment-16866</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dvnutrix]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sadly, some people regard being told that they are factually incorrect as abusive and &#039;bullying&#039;. It is remarkably unfortunate that Jeni Barnett has so diluted the very real horrors and traumas of children&#039;s experience of cyber-bullying in this way.

We have linked to the podcast on the 2 compilation posts - it has a very helpful exploration of the fallacies in part of her programme. Truly astonishing that so many could be included in such a comparatively short item.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly, some people regard being told that they are factually incorrect as abusive and &#8216;bullying&#8217;. It is remarkably unfortunate that Jeni Barnett has so diluted the very real horrors and traumas of children&#8217;s experience of cyber-bullying in this way.</p>
<p>We have linked to the podcast on the 2 compilation posts &#8211; it has a very helpful exploration of the fallacies in part of her programme. Truly astonishing that so many could be included in such a comparatively short item.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://holfordwatch.info/2009/02/06/jeni-barnett-and-the-phone-call-with-yasmin-on-the-lbc-mmr-segment/comment-page-2/#comment-16862</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know if it qualifies as &quot;cyber-bullying&quot;, but I left a comment on her site that her fame has reached Australia.  Indeed, a podcast at http://www.skepticsfieldguide.net/ has been featuring her browbeating and other modes of spreading fallacies.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if it qualifies as &#8220;cyber-bullying&#8221;, but I left a comment on her site that her fame has reached Australia.  Indeed, a podcast at <a href="http://www.skepticsfieldguide.net/" rel="nofollow">http://www.skepticsfieldguide.net/</a> has been featuring her browbeating and other modes of spreading fallacies.</p>
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		<title>By: dvnutrix</title>
		<link>http://holfordwatch.info/2009/02/06/jeni-barnett-and-the-phone-call-with-yasmin-on-the-lbc-mmr-segment/comment-page-2/#comment-16842</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dvnutrix]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 11:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Many of us would like to know when that apology for a nasty bit of mis-characterisation will happen...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many of us would like to know when that apology for a nasty bit of mis-characterisation will happen&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Randall</title>
		<link>http://holfordwatch.info/2009/02/06/jeni-barnett-and-the-phone-call-with-yasmin-on-the-lbc-mmr-segment/comment-page-2/#comment-16807</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Randall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 23:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve just seen her latest whinge on her blog about cyber-bulling with the heavy anvil that she has been the victim of this herself.

So, when is she going to apologise to Yasmin, then?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve just seen her latest whinge on her blog about cyber-bulling with the heavy anvil that she has been the victim of this herself.</p>
<p>So, when is she going to apologise to Yasmin, then?</p>
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		<title>By: LBC and Global Radio, Currently London&#8217;s Biggest Sulk? &#171; Holford Watch: Patrick Holford, nutritionism and bad science</title>
		<link>http://holfordwatch.info/2009/02/06/jeni-barnett-and-the-phone-call-with-yasmin-on-the-lbc-mmr-segment/comment-page-2/#comment-14828</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LBC and Global Radio, Currently London&#8217;s Biggest Sulk? &#171; Holford Watch: Patrick Holford, nutritionism and bad science]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 22:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] of Yasmin’s phone call as “vicious”.[c] Dr Petra Boynton gives an excellent analysis of the phone call that closed the MMR Segment for the 7 Jan 2009 show and holds it up as an example of why health professionals are wary are talking with media people. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of Yasmin’s phone call as “vicious”.[c] Dr Petra Boynton gives an excellent analysis of the phone call that closed the MMR Segment for the 7 Jan 2009 show and holds it up as an example of why health professionals are wary are talking with media people. [...]</p>
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