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	<title>Comments on: Will Patrick Holford Be Calling Upon His Mailing List to Sign the New Andrew Wakefield Petition? If So, We&#8217;ve Made Some Annotations</title>
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	<description>The truth about Patrick Holford, media nutritionist</description>
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		<title>By: sensible girl</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sensible girl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s a shame you people aren&#039;t members of his exclusive club - according to his latest newsletter that would allow you to have a blog in the members&#039; area and to comment on his own blog pieces. Given he supports Zeitgeist Addendum I&#039;m sure that he&#039;s so devoted to free speech that he would let your comments and posts stand.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a shame you people aren&#8217;t members of his exclusive club &#8211; according to his latest newsletter that would allow you to have a blog in the members&#8217; area and to comment on his own blog pieces. Given he supports Zeitgeist Addendum I&#8217;m sure that he&#8217;s so devoted to free speech that he would let your comments and posts stand.</p>
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		<title>By: valerian</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[valerian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 20:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excellent work with lots of useful links.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent work with lots of useful links.</p>
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		<title>By: Science-Based Medicine &#187; The incredible shrinking vaccine-autism hypothesis shrinks some more</title>
		<link>http://holfordwatch.info/2009/02/23/will-patrick-holford-be-calling-upon-his-mailing-list-to-sign-the-new-andrew-wakefield-petition/comment-page-1/#comment-16090</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Science-Based Medicine &#187; The incredible shrinking vaccine-autism hypothesis shrinks some more]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 09:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] was that it took longer than I had expected. True, a group had formed, proclaiming that &#8220;we support Dr. Andrew Wakefield.&#8221; Also true, the antivaccine activists at the Age of Autism have been working overtime to [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] was that it took longer than I had expected. True, a group had formed, proclaiming that &#8220;we support Dr. Andrew Wakefield.&#8221; Also true, the antivaccine activists at the Age of Autism have been working overtime to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; Skeptics&#8217; Circle #106 Disillusioned Words: atheism, art and politics</title>
		<link>http://holfordwatch.info/2009/02/23/will-patrick-holford-be-calling-upon-his-mailing-list-to-sign-the-new-andrew-wakefield-petition/comment-page-1/#comment-15884</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[&#187; Skeptics&#8217; Circle #106 Disillusioned Words: atheism, art and politics]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 02:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Will Patrick Holford Be Calling Upon His Mailing List to Sign the New Andrew Wakefield Petition? If .... With a title like that, what else can I say about post from Holford Watch (dot info)? In June 2007, as the Autism Omnibus Hearings were in progress and the initial test case was being heard, Patrick Holford contacted his mailing list and asked them to sign a petition in support of Dr Andrew Wakefield. Although it doesn’t look like he ever signed the petition, it is clear that he influenced other people to sign, people who directly cited him as instrumental in the decision not to vaccinate children against&#8230; [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Will Patrick Holford Be Calling Upon His Mailing List to Sign the New Andrew Wakefield Petition? If &#8230;. With a title like that, what else can I say about post from Holford Watch (dot info)? In June 2007, as the Autism Omnibus Hearings were in progress and the initial test case was being heard, Patrick Holford contacted his mailing list and asked them to sign a petition in support of Dr Andrew Wakefield. Although it doesn’t look like he ever signed the petition, it is clear that he influenced other people to sign, people who directly cited him as instrumental in the decision not to vaccinate children against&#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: philb</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 15:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No.

If he is ever challenged about this he will do his usual Gish Gallop, plead the 5th or finesse his way out of it like he did in that interview with Emer Keeling.

Nice job on the reworking of the petition.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No.</p>
<p>If he is ever challenged about this he will do his usual Gish Gallop, plead the 5th or finesse his way out of it like he did in that interview with Emer Keeling.</p>
<p>Nice job on the reworking of the petition.</p>
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		<title>By: dvnutrix</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dvnutrix]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 15:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe Teflon as well?

Yes to the dotting &lt;i&gt;i&lt;/i&gt; :-) Maybe they should allow people to sign in their own selection of font colour - lots of sparkly pink.

On the mote and beam front, I think it is the magnitude of what this set in motion that distinguishes Andrew Wakefield.

There have been some high-profile wrongful convictions that have been over-turned by improvements in DNA evidence etc.

Imagine somebody had been convicted of a serious crime on some evidence that is tainted by fraud or manipulated results so both the evidence presented to the jury and therefore their assessment is wrong. Would any of these defenders be arguing: &quot;So, what if this is wrong - look at all the other stuff that is OK and look at the number of criminals who walk free all the time? You need to look at all the convictions where DNA was used that are OK. This person is in prison, my family and I are safe, so that is proof that this conviction has helped me&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe Teflon as well?</p>
<p>Yes to the dotting <i>i</i> :-) Maybe they should allow people to sign in their own selection of font colour &#8211; lots of sparkly pink.</p>
<p>On the mote and beam front, I think it is the magnitude of what this set in motion that distinguishes Andrew Wakefield.</p>
<p>There have been some high-profile wrongful convictions that have been over-turned by improvements in DNA evidence etc.</p>
<p>Imagine somebody had been convicted of a serious crime on some evidence that is tainted by fraud or manipulated results so both the evidence presented to the jury and therefore their assessment is wrong. Would any of these defenders be arguing: &#8220;So, what if this is wrong &#8211; look at all the other stuff that is OK and look at the number of criminals who walk free all the time? You need to look at all the convictions where DNA was used that are OK. This person is in prison, my family and I are safe, so that is proof that this conviction has helped me&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: dvnutrix</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dvnutrix]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 15:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is that such a loose translation that if I were to ask an Albanian there is a good chance that they would not be able to identify the source? :)

I stress again that Patrick Holford repeatedly claims that he reads all the research so that other people don&#039;t have to and he distils it into advice that people can use to improve their health.

He didn&#039;t understand Wakefield&#039;s research or the research that showed that Wakefield was wrong. Nonetheless, it is time for him to be accountable for his own advice, misguided though it was.

I wonder if he will model himself after his hero and blame Wakefield himself? After all, Wakefield is making a tidy job of trying to offload responsibility onto Profs Walker-Smith and Murch in way that proves it is possible to lower one&#039;s opinion of him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is that such a loose translation that if I were to ask an Albanian there is a good chance that they would not be able to identify the source? :)</p>
<p>I stress again that Patrick Holford repeatedly claims that he reads all the research so that other people don&#8217;t have to and he distils it into advice that people can use to improve their health.</p>
<p>He didn&#8217;t understand Wakefield&#8217;s research or the research that showed that Wakefield was wrong. Nonetheless, it is time for him to be accountable for his own advice, misguided though it was.</p>
<p>I wonder if he will model himself after his hero and blame Wakefield himself? After all, Wakefield is making a tidy job of trying to offload responsibility onto Profs Walker-Smith and Murch in way that proves it is possible to lower one&#8217;s opinion of him.</p>
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		<title>By: tasmind</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tasmind]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 13:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My contribution of cliches.

Why would he?

Turkeys don&#039;t vote for Christmas.

Why slaughter a sacred cow if it is also your cash cow?

When you&#039;ve set yourself up as a shepherd your sheep will follow you into a ditch and you can leave them there after you climb out and go to find yourself another flock (that&#039;s a loose translation from the Albanian).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My contribution of cliches.</p>
<p>Why would he?</p>
<p>Turkeys don&#8217;t vote for Christmas.</p>
<p>Why slaughter a sacred cow if it is also your cash cow?</p>
<p>When you&#8217;ve set yourself up as a shepherd your sheep will follow you into a ditch and you can leave them there after you climb out and go to find yourself another flock (that&#8217;s a loose translation from the Albanian).</p>
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		<title>By: Randall</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Randall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 12:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Didn&#039;t you just need to strike-through most of it, and type &quot;La La La, not listening, you&#039;re all a bunch of meanies and isn&#039;t it mote and beam time?&quot;

When they wrote the petition, do you think that they tried to find a font that would let them dot the &lt;em&gt;i&lt;/em&gt; in Wakefield with a heart?

I expect Andrew Wakefield to go the Ginola route and start advertising for Head and Shoulders.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t you just need to strike-through most of it, and type &#8220;La La La, not listening, you&#8217;re all a bunch of meanies and isn&#8217;t it mote and beam time?&#8221;</p>
<p>When they wrote the petition, do you think that they tried to find a font that would let them dot the <em>i</em> in Wakefield with a heart?</p>
<p>I expect Andrew Wakefield to go the Ginola route and start advertising for Head and Shoulders.</p>
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		<title>By: Martha</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martha]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 12:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You know Patrick Holford is never going to admit in public that he is wrong about Andrew Wakefield because that would open up the fact that he had never really read the literature in the first place, just read the press releases from the Orthomolecular News Service that he passes off as his own work.

How the head of a charity, for the children and for the vulnerable old people, has the nerve not to do the right thing and sit smiling on breakfast sofas for GMTV while pushing his pills.

That&#039;s Britain for you. People tell you lies, they sell you worthless stuff and people love them and defend them and make them wealthy and heap honours on them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know Patrick Holford is never going to admit in public that he is wrong about Andrew Wakefield because that would open up the fact that he had never really read the literature in the first place, just read the press releases from the Orthomolecular News Service that he passes off as his own work.</p>
<p>How the head of a charity, for the children and for the vulnerable old people, has the nerve not to do the right thing and sit smiling on breakfast sofas for GMTV while pushing his pills.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s Britain for you. People tell you lies, they sell you worthless stuff and people love them and defend them and make them wealthy and heap honours on them.</p>
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