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	<title>Comments on: Holford on Kim Hill&#8217;s Radio New Zealand show</title>
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	<description>The truth about Patrick Holford, media nutritionist</description>
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		<title>By: dvnutrix</title>
		<link>http://holfordwatch.info/2009/03/02/holford-on-kim-hills-radio-new-zealand-show/comment-page-1/#comment-16197</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 16:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;http://holfordwatch.info/2008/11/16/who-wrote-about-food-for-the-brain-in-the-economist-conflict-of-interest/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Post&lt;/a&gt;:
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&lt;i&gt;How 2 QUIT&lt;/i&gt; not only offers advice for individuals but also has a section that touts for more business: CALLING ALL TREATMENT CENTRES. They make a request of people who are not interested in an evidence base (OK, we inserted that last part but it is implicit):
&lt;blockquote&gt;If you work in an addiction treatment centre and would like to find out how to bring the latest nutritional approaches into your treatment centre send your details to us. &lt;/blockquote&gt;Because that is just what the NHS and private addiction centres need, more wibble and less analysis/implementation of what does work for people with addictions.
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And yes - the business plan for the FFTB is very revealing in those terms.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://holfordwatch.info/2008/11/16/who-wrote-about-food-for-the-brain-in-the-economist-conflict-of-interest/" rel="nofollow">Post</a>:<br />
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<i>How 2 QUIT</i> not only offers advice for individuals but also has a section that touts for more business: CALLING ALL TREATMENT CENTRES. They make a request of people who are not interested in an evidence base (OK, we inserted that last part but it is implicit):</p>
<blockquote><p>If you work in an addiction treatment centre and would like to find out how to bring the latest nutritional approaches into your treatment centre send your details to us. </p></blockquote>
<p>Because that is just what the NHS and private addiction centres need, more wibble and less analysis/implementation of what does work for people with addictions.<br />
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<p>And yes &#8211; the business plan for the FFTB is very revealing in those terms.</p>
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		<title>By: Wulfstan</title>
		<link>http://holfordwatch.info/2009/03/02/holford-on-kim-hills-radio-new-zealand-show/comment-page-1/#comment-16134</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wulfstan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 21:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe the next announcement will be that some addle-pated person of influence in an NHS  Trust has consented to allow this method to be used in a detox facility.

Isn&#039;t there a post or comment that reveals that getting contracts for this and other mental health interventions from the NHS is in the business plan for Food for the Brain?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe the next announcement will be that some addle-pated person of influence in an NHS  Trust has consented to allow this method to be used in a detox facility.</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t there a post or comment that reveals that getting contracts for this and other mental health interventions from the NHS is in the business plan for Food for the Brain?</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Aust</title>
		<link>http://holfordwatch.info/2009/03/02/holford-on-kim-hills-radio-new-zealand-show/comment-page-1/#comment-16131</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dr Aust]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 20:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In starting up this jolly new Optimum Nutrition venture Patrick is, of course, following the pattern laid down many years ago by his supposed mentor &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Pfeiffer_(pharmacologist)&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Carl Pfeiffer&lt;/a&gt;, who founded the &quot;Princeton Brain Bio Centre&quot; (nothing to do with Princeton University) in the early 70s as a &quot;nutritional and holistic private mental health clinic&quot;.

Pfeiffer died in 1988, and the clinic reportedly shut down in the early 90s, but something akin to it is back in operation, now called &quot;Earth House&quot;. To quote &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.earthhouse.org/index.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;from their website&lt;/a&gt;:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Earth House is a model residential treatment center for young adults suffering from major mental disorders such as Schizophrenia and Bipolar disorder... 

...Many [residents] have a history of suicide attempts, and &lt;b&gt;a history of substance abuse is common&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

I suppose we should be grateful Patrick has not set up his own residential holistic  treatment centre.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In starting up this jolly new Optimum Nutrition venture Patrick is, of course, following the pattern laid down many years ago by his supposed mentor <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Pfeiffer_(pharmacologist)" rel="nofollow">Carl Pfeiffer</a>, who founded the &#8220;Princeton Brain Bio Centre&#8221; (nothing to do with Princeton University) in the early 70s as a &#8220;nutritional and holistic private mental health clinic&#8221;.</p>
<p>Pfeiffer died in 1988, and the clinic reportedly shut down in the early 90s, but something akin to it is back in operation, now called &#8220;Earth House&#8221;. To quote <a href="http://www.earthhouse.org/index.html" rel="nofollow">from their website</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Earth House is a model residential treatment center for young adults suffering from major mental disorders such as Schizophrenia and Bipolar disorder&#8230; </p>
<p>&#8230;Many [residents] have a history of suicide attempts, and <b>a history of substance abuse is common</b>.</p></blockquote>
<p>I suppose we should be grateful Patrick has not set up his own residential holistic  treatment centre.</p>
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		<title>By: Warhelmet</title>
		<link>http://holfordwatch.info/2009/03/02/holford-on-kim-hills-radio-new-zealand-show/comment-page-1/#comment-16127</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Warhelmet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh dear. I have also just tried to listen to the show. I gave up because of the bile rising.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh dear. I have also just tried to listen to the show. I gave up because of the bile rising.</p>
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		<title>By: nodrande</title>
		<link>http://holfordwatch.info/2009/03/02/holford-on-kim-hills-radio-new-zealand-show/comment-page-1/#comment-16117</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 17:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have just listened to the show but could not get to the end due annoyance. Holford is simplifying a subject so much to sell his supps it is unbelievable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have just listened to the show but could not get to the end due annoyance. Holford is simplifying a subject so much to sell his supps it is unbelievable.</p>
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		<title>By: jonhw</title>
		<link>http://holfordwatch.info/2009/03/02/holford-on-kim-hills-radio-new-zealand-show/comment-page-1/#comment-16116</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 17:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d guess from the way it sounded that Holford was there in person - but it is just a guess.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d guess from the way it sounded that Holford was there in person &#8211; but it is just a guess.</p>
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		<title>By: dvnutrix</title>
		<link>http://holfordwatch.info/2009/03/02/holford-on-kim-hills-radio-new-zealand-show/comment-page-1/#comment-16115</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dvnutrix]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 17:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How very helpful for Patrick Holford to have had all that free publicity from The Economist and now NZ radio.

BRAIN BIO CENTRE LAUNCHES ADDICTION RECOVERY SERVICE*
The Brain Bio Centre is the outpatient treatment clinic for the Food for the Brain charity. The clinic specialises in the &#039;optimum nutrition&#039; approach to mental health problems and has recently launched an addictions recovery service. Those with former addictions often suffer from abstinence symptoms including: cravings, anxiety, restlessness, irritability, poor memory, mood swings, depression, difficulty concentrating or focusing, stress and hypersensitivity to sound or noise. A comprehensive assessment of biochemical imbalances that can contribute to abstinence symptoms for those in recovery is available, plus advice to correct these imbalances as a means to restore health.
The Brain Bio Centre team, which includes nutritional therapists and consultant psychiatrists, work with any person who is in recovery from alcohol, heroin, amphetamines, cannabis and benzodiazepines. Nutritional assistance is also available to those quitting smoking, caffeine and sugar.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How very helpful for Patrick Holford to have had all that free publicity from The Economist and now NZ radio.</p>
<p>BRAIN BIO CENTRE LAUNCHES ADDICTION RECOVERY SERVICE*<br />
The Brain Bio Centre is the outpatient treatment clinic for the Food for the Brain charity. The clinic specialises in the &#8216;optimum nutrition&#8217; approach to mental health problems and has recently launched an addictions recovery service. Those with former addictions often suffer from abstinence symptoms including: cravings, anxiety, restlessness, irritability, poor memory, mood swings, depression, difficulty concentrating or focusing, stress and hypersensitivity to sound or noise. A comprehensive assessment of biochemical imbalances that can contribute to abstinence symptoms for those in recovery is available, plus advice to correct these imbalances as a means to restore health.<br />
The Brain Bio Centre team, which includes nutritional therapists and consultant psychiatrists, work with any person who is in recovery from alcohol, heroin, amphetamines, cannabis and benzodiazepines. Nutritional assistance is also available to those quitting smoking, caffeine and sugar.</p>
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		<title>By: draust</title>
		<link>http://holfordwatch.info/2009/03/02/holford-on-kim-hills-radio-new-zealand-show/comment-page-1/#comment-16113</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[draust]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 17:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[PS  Was Patrick there in person, or down a phone line?  If the former, is he touring the Antipodes?  I am having nasty hallucinations of a smirking PH doing a kind of Nutritionista global tour travelogue, somewhat along the lines of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sofacinema.co.uk/visitor/product/29726-Billy-Connolly-World-Tour-Of-New-Zealand.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Billy Connolly&#039;s various efforts&lt;/a&gt;. Though without the jokes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS  Was Patrick there in person, or down a phone line?  If the former, is he touring the Antipodes?  I am having nasty hallucinations of a smirking PH doing a kind of Nutritionista global tour travelogue, somewhat along the lines of <a href="http://www.sofacinema.co.uk/visitor/product/29726-Billy-Connolly-World-Tour-Of-New-Zealand.html" rel="nofollow">Billy Connolly&#8217;s various efforts</a>. Though without the jokes.</p>
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		<title>By: draust</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[draust]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Goodness, the man is dim. Or deluded. Or just high on his own &quot;genius&quot;.  

I had always thought that part of Cher Patrique&#039;s achievement was his savvy-ness at not signing up to the complete loony fringes of nutritionism - or at least not  making it too obvious. But his sticking to this tired line on Vitamin C for cancer, HIV etc. etc. suggests to me that he has lost the plot - perhaps it is all  that &lt;a href=&quot;http://draust.wordpress.com/2008/11/19/the-first-nutritionistas-song/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;Feelin&#039; the love&quot; from audiences of adoring acolytes&lt;/a&gt;, or of the Worried Well when he takes the show on the road.

Anyway, you would have thought that, after the Matthias Rath South African vitamins-for-HIV scam, he might have ratcheted down the pitch for vitamins as a cure-all a notch or two. But clearly not.

And all the more reason, of course, for radio and TV shows not to be giving the man a free ride to promote his codswallop.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Goodness, the man is dim. Or deluded. Or just high on his own &#8220;genius&#8221;.  </p>
<p>I had always thought that part of Cher Patrique&#8217;s achievement was his savvy-ness at not signing up to the complete loony fringes of nutritionism &#8211; or at least not  making it too obvious. But his sticking to this tired line on Vitamin C for cancer, HIV etc. etc. suggests to me that he has lost the plot &#8211; perhaps it is all  that <a href="http://draust.wordpress.com/2008/11/19/the-first-nutritionistas-song/" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Feelin&#8217; the love&#8221; from audiences of adoring acolytes</a>, or of the Worried Well when he takes the show on the road.</p>
<p>Anyway, you would have thought that, after the Matthias Rath South African vitamins-for-HIV scam, he might have ratcheted down the pitch for vitamins as a cure-all a notch or two. But clearly not.</p>
<p>And all the more reason, of course, for radio and TV shows not to be giving the man a free ride to promote his codswallop.</p>
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		<title>By: dvnutrix</title>
		<link>http://holfordwatch.info/2009/03/02/holford-on-kim-hills-radio-new-zealand-show/comment-page-1/#comment-16110</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dvnutrix]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For vitamin C - findings indicate that an anti oxidant can be pro-oxidant and it is unwise to take supplements without consulting oncologist as they can interfere with therapeutic interventions. Some nice nuances here in an &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/17/health/17well.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;NYT discussion&lt;/a&gt;.

Dr Dave Gorski has also commented on some of the more recent &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=236&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;research concerning vitamin C and cancer&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For vitamin C &#8211; findings indicate that an anti oxidant can be pro-oxidant and it is unwise to take supplements without consulting oncologist as they can interfere with therapeutic interventions. Some nice nuances here in an <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/17/health/17well.html" rel="nofollow">NYT discussion</a>.</p>
<p>Dr Dave Gorski has also commented on some of the more recent <a href="http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=236" rel="nofollow">research concerning vitamin C and cancer</a>.</p>
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